Stop masturbating to "Running with the Buffaloes". We know who you are, racing down Magnolia Road and other 'famous' Boulder runs, too self absorbed in your fantasy world to even acknowledge other runners out there with you. All of the other locals say "Hi" and "Good morning". Funny, Barrios, Jones, Guerra, Goucher and many others give you a "Hi" and a nod or a wave ... but not the PRETENDERS. Wake up and train ... stop posing.
Perhaps their disgruntled nature is due to the bad bagles in Boulder?
If they can break 1:50 for 17.+ miles up there (just over 6:00/mile pace), they're no longer pretenders.
One Keg wrote:
If they can break 1:50 for 17.+ miles up there (just over 6:00/mile pace), they're no longer pretenders.
And they didn't, not even close, so they're pretenders.
Well I ran 1:51 and change a couple of times up there several years ago and I waved at people so don't blame me. :^)
;-)
OneKeg,
What were your approximate split times?
There are some variations to this route, but this was the standard long run for CU and the snooty Boulder effete locals. :) Runners park and run from slightly before (100') the 5-mile mark to across Peak-to-Peak Hwy. 72, about 1.5 or 1.6 miles to the campground and dead-end and came back. It's 17.3+ miles by the measuring wheel, though they call it "17".
I remember breaking 59 at the turnaround and being psyched (58:40s), and 52:40s or so coming back, give or take 10 secs. I'm now 40 (41 in Sept.), so this was in fall 1994-fall 1995 range when I had the desire and ability to train that hard. I did 14 up there on July 4th at a significantly slower pace and it killed me.
As for my specific mile splits, I don't recall those too well. I remember a close to 5-flat mile (stupid?) on the return run, flying down from the 9-mile marker to the 8-mile marker, and a 7:20 or so struggle on this stretch as the slowest mile going out (from 8 to 9). ... But it's just about all downhill (west) or uphill (east).
The rest of the miles likely ranged from 5:40-6:40s. One time, I was pretty toasted at the end. Another time, I felt like I could run five more miles. Possibly one of the best training days opf my life.
1:51 .....PROVE IT !!!!!!!
True Eye Ran
If a tree falls in the forest any nobody is around does it make a sound ? If you run a certain time and nobody is around did it really happen ? Who truly can verify it happened ? Heck, you can say you ran 4:30 miles and it's just plain BS unless it's in a race and it's a measured / timed / published course. Otherwise it sounds more like a bad case of gloating.
Nice Post , that is a great day.
You either did it or you didnt.
Only your really know.
everything else is windowdressing
hey justin...if I run 27 minutes for 8k and decide to go up there for a run and struggle through 7:15 miles...does that make me a poser?
I desperately need your permission to run on a road in Boulder...
E-mail me and I can put you in touch with some pretty well-known runners who were running 1:51 for Mags with me at the time. Otherwise, have a nice day.
well i'm from a non-altitude midwest state... and like many others i pilgrimaged to magnolia road, i mean i got directions from people in the know and even saw a few of the unfriendlies out there.
my honest opinion is that it's not that great. i really have a hard time understanding why it's become such an amazing training route. i've run better routes in missouri and iowa and kansas even. some definitely more scenic and challenging. gosh, boulder has TONS of better areas/roads/trails to run on. i mean the run didn't kill me at all, and i know for a fact that 1:51 wasn't too far off that day, and for a somewhat mediocre effort it makes me wonder...
i'm sure a lot of the wetmore groupies will bash this post and tell me what a jerk i am or call me a dumbass or whatever... but this is my 2 cents, coming from a distance runner who was extraordinarily unimpressed.
Exactly, it is a semi-well traveled dirt road at altitude.
My real point is that there is really no magic up there, except that conjured up in the minds of some who are living vicariously through "Running with the Buffaloes".
The bigger point here is why gloat about times in a trainig run ? How convenient it is to be able to state times that are not EASILY verifiable. I care not to contact you or for you to give me a list of "well-known runners". This "well known" statement sounds a bit snooty/gloaty too, does'nt it ? You sure you are as friendly to joggers as with your elite pals ?
I ageee supyall.......
The fact the "Boulder", "Mags", "Wetmore", etc. are all talked about here as the running mecca is BS. This just makes me feel like there are many with large running egos in the Boulder who no doubt are snooty about low landers.
eye-ran wrote:
You sure you are as friendly to joggers as with your elite pals ?
I'll vouch for this, and will go on the record as saying that if "Mr. Keg" claims to have run 1:51:00 on Magnolia, I'm sure it's the truth.
CO-Runner
So you were there? with watch, at correct turn-around, etc...
Root of matter is why not simply race....PUBLISHED times do not lie. No need to post any times on this site the record will speak for itself. It's very tiresome finding truth from gloat here on post like these.