On Dyestat and Letsrun

JEH,

Think about what you're asking for. There'd have to be "registration" of userid's. No one here would do that. That's the only way to "regulate" the trolls, ie: that takes away from anonymously slamming folks.

I agree with you that it'd be great to have a site like that - but I (sadly) think it won't happen.

A site where threads are thoughtful and posts can engage the reader in the lively art of conversation? Don't know how you'd filter out the zit-creamers and others who post only to trumpet their own egos. But if one could get started, I certainly would be up for contributing to it.

hey JEH, you old fogie, we've been through this before... Without registration, sadly, this is just how it's gonna be. The decline, which I've noticed too, I believe can be attributed to what's known in some circles to be the "law of idiotarian frequency increase" ie once the general decline begins, maybe catalyzed by one particuraly crass, ignorant poster others can't help but follow in somewhat of a domino effect of dumbing down and infantilization. Intelligent posts thus decline in frequency exponentially, to bring the the posting down to a lower and lower level of insidiously un-funny jokes, bashing where it not be deserved, and an ever greater abundance of anorexic chick threads. Expect only worse and less valuable discorse, as this is the nature of the idioitarianization. Thank me for my optimism (and rationalism)later.

It is frustrating. On my "Mormons are not a cult" thread, someone randomly made the comment that "mormons are asshole followers", which would not be that bad if I hadn't started the thread because of bizarre Mormon bashing on other threads. People here are amazingly negative- and when you try to do something about it, people slam you for it. It's frustrating. I wish we could stick to running, but that seems to bring out the worst in people, too!

Some people seem to like fighting each other. It's lost on me.

letsrun sucks! and you all suck, too!

just kidding... kinda

Even though there has been a general decline in the interesting thread content, and general increase in the idiot factor, this still is a pretty good place to come for banter with people who have a common love for running.

But couldn't we just ban all the HS and college kids? And malmo, too. That guy's just nasty... and when you poke him, look out!

(just a joke, folks - let's nobody go getting uptight on me now)

Just generally nicer people. Maybe they are too young to act like many of the postings here. But, on the other hand here you get those great postings about Clarkes and Virgins training, JK and Hadd....really incredible stuff and those are "diamonds in the rough"

two-thirds of the posts here are party threads.

JEH,

While I normally agree with what you say here's my take on the situation:

1) There are no trolls or tools here. PBK is gone. Catman is gone.

2) You are one of the more serious runners here (even though you have denied that on ocassion) and being so, you must be able to admit that the majority of others will be less serious than you about running and training. Wejo is in the same category, although he is more serious even than you. As difficult as it is for some of you to believe, not everyone here lives and breathes running - even those of us for whom running is an integral part of our lifestyle - and that's most of us.

3) Runners are just like other people - except they run. So, we then have discussion about Iraq and God and hot women, and there are some trolls that appear once in a while. I hate trolls.

Anyway JEH my good man, it is always good to keep striving for the best, but unless WEJO wants to really lock down the message board and read everything with a fine-toothed comb (he has said he has no interest in doing that) then if you come here you will have to deal with those really really annoyingly bad posters - whoever they are.

Yours in Bliss,

Flagpole

First off, I agree that the very things that allow Letsrun's "free-spirit" (which can be fun, and I am sure is attractive to the wider audience) are the same things that will don't allow for serious running/training discussion, particularly on a personal level.

Although I once felt that Letsrun should change, I no longer think so and accept that it is what is. Honestly, I am not sure if running, really running (by itself) will ever be a popular sport with mass appeal.

So, as always, the Brojos deserve credit for what they've made with Letsrun, and I thank them for it.

However, if you (like LSR and "-----") are interested in a more running-centric message board, let me know at

runjeh@yahoo.com

, and perhaps something can be done.

JEH,

I'm sure if a more running-centric message board did exist and I were a part of it, even I would keep the topics running-related almost exclusively. Oh to dream...

One does exist, but since Flagpole is reading this, I'm not passing the link on.

A true running board cannot exist without Flagpole.

Isn't it funny that it seems nearly all threads evolve into things different than they started and almost all of them seem to get Flagpole involved......even if he did not start it?

Hey, what happened to the LetsBan Flapole thread? I noticed it was gone yesterday or I could not find it. Last I saw it was nearing 100 and JEH said he was not interested in it any more.

Did it make 100 posts? Did hedge get it?

I would have got 100 - It got up to like 94 or 5. Then, it was yanked.. I guess they're losing too many shirts.

So, why do I sometimes feel like I'm playing an "adult" version of peek-a-boo?

What's the site, uh?, I am sure flagpole isn't watching now.

Bubba,

For some reason, people flock to the message board when I reply. I have that certain charisma that keeps people wanting more - go get a life of your own people - I am but a man - albeit a great man, husband and father, but just a man nonetheless - stop your worship of me - there is only one true God, and He is not me.

I can't help it that I'm a born leader. Some things just are.

You see, as far as running boards go, how can it get better than this?

The thing I like about the setup of this board is that it goes so far beyond running. Most of my favorite posts are the ones that have absolutely nothing to do with the sport. I think that a registration system would hurt the board tremendously because most people just don't want tto register. Additionally, people would be less inclined to speak openly and freely on some of the taboo issues that do show up on the board. I have seen many messageboards from running websites and this is by far the best. It even beats out the old tnfmedia messageboard.

good point, if you dont like the board then tough luck.

quit complainning. we did force you to come here

This board has something Dyestat doesn't have...freedom of speech. Every time drug use by pros is brought up over there it gets deleted.

hey if you don't like it here buddy, you can leave