Masters Weekend Races and Runs

Wow, take off for a few days of fishing and this place is full of all sorts of drama and intrigue...Masters Nationals, missing records, anon. sniping and backbiting. The masters thread is starting to sound like regular Letsrun!

Well this sub-elite masters skipped an 8k road race to go salmon fishing--missing the race was not a big deal but it will affect overall standings in a points series. The best thing is that we have now have a freezer full of wild salmon.

Trail marathon in a month & I don't know if I'm really ready. I did 17 mles yesterday, with about 8 at pace (mostly uphill). Pretty much bonked after taking a header about 1:50 into the run, but pressed on for another 20 min. At least it was a good simulation run.

16x wrote:

if you mean calling them "out" for their deceit, yes, that would be moi.

The Stiners are wonderful people. What could possibly be deceitful about them?

On the other hand, you have displayed an uncontrolled anger, here and on almost every other thread you've been involved in. What is your problem?

Please tell me when we have met?

Whoooooo! Excellent post by Truth Be Known!!!

I ran HS track in the first year following Title IX so I guess that makes me a "pioneer woman in this sport" too. I was a member of my HS first women's XC team. Very glad to say that I was thrilled to death to participate. I knew that only good things would follow. Funny thing, I didn't experience any "hostility." Guess my positive attitude kept it away.

Wow. I'm learning more than I'm not sure I want to. It must be the truly competitive spirit that makes these runners not give up on their arguments. By the way, it's Harn, I believe.

Nice job on the fish.

As for drama- here's a totally drama free something.

Given: I ran 3:47.88 at UWO, and it was the published record until the school decided to combine the 1500 and the mile.

Given: I'm fairly un-popular at UWO.

Now, what happens when a UWO runner runs faster than 3:47.88, but slower than 4:03? Shouldn't that runner deserve some recognition for finally besting a record from 1983? And wouldn't it be extra-sweet knowing that it was a record held by someone as un-popular as me? I don't think I'm paranoid to think that, if that runner asks, the school will change the policy and publish both records- the mile and the 1500m. Nobody I've ever met has said that's it's totally legitimate to claim a mile pr off of a 1500m time. The mile isn't run very often. There could be some really, really talented runners who never get a legitimate shot at breaking the mile record.

I hope everyone can see that, at least this time, I'm making a dispassionate argument on the merits of record keeping and not on personal bias. I tried to make a similar argument when I heard that the masters records were going to be erased.

So your 3:47 was taken as a converson or split from a mile? I guess I'm confused why your school has 4:03 as the record on one web page and 3:47 on another... maybe I missed it in the posts above. Yeah, I'd be pissed about that.

As far as 20 to 25 year old gripes/snubs.., hell a lot of us may have them (I've got some and could post them, but seeing the tone set here today, probably won't).

Me & my watch & 16x have been cool in the time that I've seen this weekly thread. Seems that the santimonius prig has been the likes of truth be known.

Wow again. Maybe there is something to this. I just sense a very real sense of frustration and lashing out at someone's past because they are not happy with the present. I have the same problem but don't publisize it.

I'm cool with Teg now. And wow- he sure has turned on the talent! He is maturing into one of the best distance runners the US has ever seen. And his mile at the UW this spring? Awesome. I was lucky enough to have witnessed it. Of all the running I have seen in my life, that performance was was the most amazing. You should have seen him! I wish him the best this summer and for the rest of his career.

If you want to blame someone for me going off on Teg, it was Groose. Groose is the one who called my ex-wife, drunk, and started disparaging me.

I'd like to here even one man say he wouldn't be really, really angry if a stupid drunk wannabe called his wife and kids and harassed them? If you think I'm taking this seriously, you should try analyzing whatever is going on in Groose's guilty conscience.

I knew Teg was there, but I didn't realize until I got it straight from him that he wanted no part of Groose's drunken stupidity.

You have to admit that, depending on how you read my posts, they could be really, really funny! Come on- 22:43 vs 22:46? Who really cares? Sometimes I miss a little on the irony, and it sounds like a rant. Sorry about that. I'll try to be a better writer.

I think I'm going to start studying Buddism and be at peace with myself. I need it. The world is crazy.

I thought running and competing was a way to find peace with oneself?

I think me and my watch were both having a late night hissy fit, between us, we were just stirring up the dirt from our pasts, and since we don't know each other and haven't exchanged phone numbers we were doing it here on Let'srun.com

So, if you have an "ISSUE" with it, then my suggestion is don't read what we write, and you can move over to the Kluft is hot thread or whatever.

I don't recall asking anyone's opinion, and I don't recall that I brought the stiner's into any of my conversation.

So - apparantly, the Truth boy or gal is having the "ISSUE" because all we were doing is having a little conversation about our past. And frankly - I'm not really interested in the person who said they were so grateful to "participate". We weren't discussing you.

People talk back and forth on here all the time about many topics. If you don't like the topic, keep on scrolling. I'm positive you have something better to do.

Tired of her wrote:

Whoooooo! Excellent post by Truth Be Known!!!

I ran HS track in the first year following Title IX so I guess that makes me a "pioneer woman in this sport" too. I was a member of my HS first women's XC team. Very glad to say that I was thrilled to death to participate. I knew that only good things would follow. Funny thing, I didn't experience any "hostility." Guess my positive attitude kept it away.

how special for you.

It helps me alot but with all the issues out there I still have angst.

Sad to see this thread deteriorate from a higher standard to Letsrun's lowest common denominator of backstabbing.

onetimeoranother wrote:

Sad to see this thread deteriorate from a higher standard to Letsrun's lowest common denominator of backstabbing.

So what comment or quote was backstabbing? I see discussion and stories happening. Making blanket statements really is not very effective.

Well, this thread is normally an oasis of good cheer and positive attitudes, so the exchanges have been somewhat...out of the ordinary.

On the other hand, that's life. Sometimes people argue, even on this thread.

me and my watch wrote:

If you want to blame someone for me going off on Teg, it was Groose. Groose is the one who called my ex-wife, drunk, and started disparaging me.

You really are a psycho aren't you? Your angry rant against Teg is SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT? Got a bridge in brooklin you want to sell me?

me and my watch wrote:

Come on- 22:43 vs 22:46? Who really cares? Sometimes I miss a little on the irony, and it sounds like a rant. Sorry about that. I'll try to be a better writer.

You care! Hopefully we can resurrect the thread in which you refused to accept the official results of that race, no matter how many people pointed out to you how wrong you were. You went on and on for dozens of posts, exactly the same way you've gone off on this petty 1500m school record thing. You're 40 years old, it's over, accept it and get on with your life!

16x wrote:

Tired of her wrote:

Whoooooo! Excellent post by Truth Be Known!!!

I ran HS track in the first year following Title IX so I guess that makes me a \"pioneer woman in this sport\" too. I was a member of my HS first women\'s XC team. Very glad to say that I was thrilled to death to participate. I knew that only good things would follow. Funny thing, I didn\'t experience any \"hostility.\" Guess my positive attitude kept it away.

how special for you.

Isn\'t it though???