Attorney shot to death in a Houston McDonald's after trying to de-escalate issue with a customer

Too many bad people.

Too many bad people with too many guns. Most likely without the gun, the attorney would still be alive.

At least a respectful human being that contributes to society wasn't injured or worse.

Problem is that bascially anyone can carry a gun in Texas (and several other GOP led states in the south) without any permit or license or training, concealed or not. They have a gun and get into an argument and then pull and fire the weapon. Almost always over some BS nonsense when your life was not in danger.

texastribune.org

Deaths from firearms keep climbing in Texas, decades after lawmakers began weakening gun regulations

Erin Douglas

The rate of firearm-related deaths in Texas has reached a level not seen since the 1990s. Texas lawmakers have approved more than 100 bills that loosened gun restrictions since 2000.

Link:www.texastribune.org/2023/05/10/texas-...

Thank goodness guns are so readily accessible in our country.

What? The respectful human being was killed, Jeffrey Limmer.

How much gun control does Vermont have? What's its murder rate?

How much gun control do Baltimore, Chicago, DC have?

My neighbor is an HPD officer. He told me that just about every shooting in the city is some version of this. Two people get into a fight. One guy loses the fight. He goes to his car to get his gun and then shoots the other guy. When ever he goes to a domestic violence call, he has to spend the first 15 minutes going around and collecting up everyone's guns before he can start questioning people and making arrests.

Guns are readily accessible in all of the places you listed, which are coincidentally….all in our country.

I'm a lawyer -- admittedly a very new one just getting started in a prosecutor's office as of last fall -- but we see this scenario way too often in the northern city I work in as well. We tend to charge them as second-degree murder (i.e., intentional killing but lacking deliberation ahead of the act) but I'm not so sure we shouldn't try for first degree. The argument is that this sort of thing still only happens in the heat of passion, but if I had things all my own way, I'd declare that the time it took to walk away from the situation, go to your car, and bring the murder weapon back to the scene is enough for the cool deliberation needed to sustain a first-degree murder charge. You knew exactly what you were planning to do the moment you turned and walked away from your victim. Oh well, second-degree murder still puts you away for a long time.

Repeal the 2nd amendment

I've said it a thousand times " junk food will kill ya ".

Isn't this the EXACT ending to Stand by Me? The kid grows up to be a lawyer, tries to mediate a situation in a fast food restaurant and gets stabbed to death.

Too many McDonald's. Too many McDonald's patrons.

Why is thinking about it first a worse crime? At least you took the time to make a rational decision. Maybe it was the wrong decision, but that's better character than just berserkly lashing out.

That’s true. But it’s an easy and incomplete answer. The “how” is where it becomes very complicated. How can we be absolutely 100% certain that a crazy or evil person never has access to firearms? Well, the only 100% certain answer is to remove all firearms from the possession of everyone. But obviously that is impossible, as police and military needs firearms, and I doubt even the most ardent leftist would argue otherwise.

So we could remove firearms from the possession of all private owners in the United States. But there are hundreds of millions of them. And with a very small number of exceptions, almost all are in safe law abiding hands. It would be extremely unjust, not to mention, probably impossible, can you remove guns from those peoples possession.

My solution, if you want to call it that, is to do our very best to keep firearms out of the hands of evil and crazy people. But stop beating ourselves up every time someone gets a hold of the guy who shouldn’t have one. It is simply inevitable. It is like demanding that no intoxicated person ever get behind the wheel. People who do should be put in jail, but it is going to happen. We live in a violent and uncertain world. We cannot solve it by attempting to get rid of millions and millions of firearms that pose no danger to anyone.

Was this a hate crime?

Too many lawyers

you don't have to repeal it, until 2008 it wasn't understood the way the supreme court now dictates. you just go back to the old understanding. if i want to be punchy, if "roe" indicates the level of respect conservative judges give precedent they don't like, well, in a decade or two, these new gun decisions won't be worth the paper they are printed on either, and "roe" will get restored. if precedent doesn't count then anything can flip when power does.

if you look it up, the supposed right to bear arms, described in terms of a well-ordered militia, pairs up with a later congressional authority to "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia." arms are usually what military has. this was written before standing armies, when we had state militia. it's a right to take your military weapon home.