Stanford Coaches destroy an athletes Olympic dream

Focus on your own race (computer) wrote:

Ppppppp wrote:

Who actually has qualifiers? Feels like everyone will be chasing them. It is good to see McDonald back running well this year.

I think the only current Aussie athlete to have run under the qualifier is Mcsweyn, but he hasn't ran under it during the qualifying window yet.

Rayner, Robinson and Mcdonald are within 3 seconds or so, and Ramsden's best time is about 12 seconds from the qualifier.

So they will all have to go after it before the olympics.

justasimpleapproach wrote:

Several weeks ago Stanford coaches had Ky Robinson compete in a 10k/5k double 2 weeks out from the Olympic selection trials for Australia over 5k. This may have been the worst coaching decision ever as Ky was a 5th place finisher in 13:40.

Please tell me why these NCAA coaches didn't prioritise him making an Olympic team over all else in 2024?

HRE wrote:

rocky mtns wrote:

I agree, but Stanford loves telling everyone they've had more Olympians than any other university. And any college coach worth his pay should be helping an athlete with a legitimate shot make the Olympics. It's a win-win for all.

Of course getting runners into national teams for big meets is a plus for the school and coach that does it. But it's not what a college coach is hired to do. That said, I seriously doubt that a 5 and 10 double done a couple weeks earlier is going to wreck a 5,000. That's a healthy time to recover.

Downunderthunder wrote:

I agree that something going on with his training isn’t resulting in the same magic as last year. And the 10k/5k is certainly questionable especially if they planned to race him again so soon in a championship race . I’m sure the logic was “let’s knock out the regional times now”. That said it’s possible that travel played a role in his performance in Australia. Maybe Ky doesn’t do well with that big travel.
Also side note.

Also totally agree ncaa coaches are incentivized for ncaa performances and not if an athlete makes international teams. Even further many are only incentivized for conference performances ie they wanna get the most points out of athletes at conference even if it’s at the cost of them qualifying for nationals down the road.

HRE wrote:

No, not Henry. One way or the other, I doubt whatever he was doing in that double was a problem at the championships.

umm, no wrote:

HRE wrote:

No, not Henry. One way or the other, I doubt whatever he was doing in that double was a problem at the championships.

ah, sorry. I feel like you've said what the "H" stands for at some point along the way but I guess I don't remember. :-) In any event, we're agreed on Ky's double.

umm, no wrote:

justasimpleapproach wrote:

Several weeks ago Stanford coaches had Ky Robinson compete in a 10k/5k double 2 weeks out from the Olympic selection trials for Australia over 5k. This may have been the worst coaching decision ever as Ky was a 5th place finisher in 13:40.

Please tell me why these NCAA coaches didn't prioritise him making an Olympic team over all else in 2024?

This is a stupid take and a bunch of simps and/or anti-Stanford haters are now jumping on board. As discussed at the time, he ran a 5000 at roughly 90% effort in the morning then essentially tempoed a 10000 in the evening to knock out his NCAA regional qualifiers PRECISELY so that he wouldn't have to race again until NCAA regionals. It was essentially a workout day and was totally fine, and leaves him open to focus on the Aussie trials. Get a grip, morons.

rocky mtns wrote:

HRE wrote:

I doubt there are any university coaches in the US who have any wording in their job descriptions about prioritizing the chances of one or more of their athletes making an Olympic team.

I agree, but Stanford loves telling everyone they've had more Olympians than any other university. And any college coach worth his pay should be helping an athlete with a legitimate shot make the Olympics. It's a win-win for all.

justasimpleapproach wrote:

umm, no wrote:

This is a stupid take and a bunch of simps and/or anti-Stanford haters are now jumping on board. As discussed at the time, he ran a 5000 at roughly 90% effort in the morning then essentially tempoed a 10000 in the evening to knock out his NCAA regional qualifiers PRECISELY so that he wouldn't have to race again until NCAA regionals. It was essentially a workout day and was totally fine, and leaves him open to focus on the Aussie trials. Get a grip, morons.

based on his performance you may be wrong. He didn't tempo 13:36 and 28:15. So please let me know what session he was doing 2-3 days after the 10k/5k tempo session 10 days out before the Australian Championships. Just to let you know that Mississippi runner Toby Gillin placed in front of Ky so maybe that is all you really need to know.

zxcvxzcv wrote:

Bunnage was 9th. That's on coach as well. Stanford results are not very good right now. Couple that with the Youngs running much slower than in high school, stuff they could have run as sophomores or juniors, and you have a program in disarray.

HRE wrote:

justasimpleapproach wrote:

Several weeks ago Stanford coaches had Ky Robinson compete in a 10k/5k double 2 weeks out from the Olympic selection trials for Australia over 5k. This may have been the worst coaching decision ever as Ky was a 5th place finisher in 13:40.

Please tell me why these NCAA coaches didn't prioritise him making an Olympic team over all else in 2024?

I doubt there are any university coaches in the US who have any wording in their job descriptions about prioritizing the chances of one or more of their athletes making an Olympic team.

justasimpleapproach wrote:

Several weeks ago Stanford coaches had Ky Robinson compete in a 10k/5k double 2 weeks out from the Olympic selection trials for Australia over 5k. This may have been the worst coaching decision ever as Ky was a 5th place finisher in 13:40.

Please tell me why these NCAA coaches didn't prioritise him making an Olympic team over all else in 2024?