Dk what's been said on here but Klecker's indoor riding looks very impressive. He did an "easy hour" @ 224 weighted avg. watts today. Think some runners tend to overdo the cycling cross training since that's gotta be solidly Z2 for him but it looks like his HR was in the 120s for it. Yesterday he did some 30/30s @ 400/185 watts, 45s @ 375/185, 60s @ 355/185, into 2x10min @ 255. Pretty dang solid for a runner.
Am injured Joe Klecker is not making the 5,000 or 10,000 team. In the 10 he isn’t beating a healthy Grant, Woody or Nico, even if he wasn’t injured that’s a tough ask. In the 5, same three plus many more.
It’s an Olympic year. Dathan’s job is to keep his athletes healthy and in the best chance to make teams and win medals. You can’t make teams and win medals in you’re injured.
So are the stalwarts of letsrun falling out of love with Dathan?
Dathan appears to be a good dude and he seems pretty positive and works hard by all accounts. However, the athletes, especially the coffee club guys, are just arrogant and intolerable. I would like OAC more if it wasn't for that douchey podcast.
Dk what's been said on here but Klecker's indoor riding looks very impressive. He did an "easy hour" @ 224 weighted avg. watts today. Think some runners tend to overdo the cycling cross training since that's gotta be solidly Z2 for him but it looks like his HR was in the 120s for it. Yesterday he did some 30/30s @ 400/185 watts, 45s @ 375/185, 60s @ 355/185, into 2x10min @ 255. Pretty dang solid for a runner.
How this have down votes? Not even a comment on OAC or any injuries. The biking looks solid! Smh
Am injured Joe Klecker is not making the 5,000 or 10,000 team. In the 10 he isn’t beating a healthy Grant, Woody or Nico, even if he wasn’t injured that’s a tough ask. In the 5, same three plus many more.
It’s an Olympic year. Dathan’s job is to keep his athletes healthy and in the best chance to make teams and win medals. You can’t make teams and win medals in you’re injured.
There's nothing to disagree with here. I think the gambit to train more and race through hard training indoors didn't work. While on paper that sounds like a great strategy to be in supreme shape at Trials, the fact of the matter is if you invest too much into hard training sometimes it turns into injuries. When they were looking to hit huge times early in indoors and at Millrose last year maybe it worked better because they had to slow down in January-February. Now it looks like for their higher-mileage runners, they ran just OK in indoors and then were battling stuff at The TEN despite it being an even bigger target than in past years.
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Dathan appears to be a good dude and he seems pretty positive and works hard by all accounts. However, the athletes, especially the coffee club guys, are just arrogant and intolerable. I would like OAC more if it wasn't for that douchey podcast.
Agreed that the athletes are arrogant. They have this group mentality that they’re better than everyone else. BUT my iPod that Ritz is the center of it all and drills it into them. I find him to be cocky and arrogant just like AlSal
Agreed that the athletes are arrogant. They have this group mentality that they’re better than everyone else. BUT my iPod that Ritz is the center of it all and drills it into them. I find him to be cocky and arrogant just like AlSal
Klecker, in the past has been a big miles + fast easy days + solid workouts type guy.
In 2023 he was doing 110 mpw with most easy runs at low 6s (with solid workouts of course).
Similar to Graham Blanks (who has also dissapeared) and many other pros- that training works very well when things are clicking. But once you encounter a small setback things the demands on the training on top of the issue then snowballs quickly and then things blow up. It just isn't great for sustainability. And with the olympic cycle fast approaching, that stress and urgency doesn't allow to do a slow build and get things right. So the cycle will continue.
Seen it many times with many runners over the years.
Everyone deals with injury at the top of distance running. Of course you try to not cross the line but if you’re running at the top you will be injured at some point. That’s just a fact. Nico was obviously injured 6 or so months ago. I honestly can’t name a top distance runner that has never dealt with injury.
Said? Talk is cheap. Too many others will rise to the top 3 occasion. She chokes under pressure. Like the last 2 Trials. And what’s up with her suddenly deleting most of her activities on Strava for 2023 and part of 2024 since yesterday? Since this thread actually. Is that supposed to throw us off?? LOL
I noticed the same thing about Andrews Strava account. She switched it to private as soon as she was called on not posting any activity since March 13 in this thread. Something is up. Why hide it? The others didn’t. What’s hilarious is that Robby went private at exactly the same time. Give me a break. So hilariously odd
Said? Talk is cheap. Too many others will rise to the top 3 occasion. She chokes under pressure. Like the last 2 Trials. And what’s up with her suddenly deleting most of her activities on Strava for 2023 and part of 2024 since yesterday? Since this thread actually. Is that supposed to throw us off?? LOL
I noticed the same thing about Andrews Strava account. She switched it to private as soon as she was called on not posting any activity since March 13 in this thread. Something is up. Why hide it? The others didn’t. What’s hilarious is that Robby went private at exactly the same time. Give me a break. So hilariously odd
These two posts translated: "I am oddly obsessed with tracking professional athlete's social media accounts and have this delusion that they are making these changes because of a thread on a forum most professional athletes avoid because of toxic weirdos such as myself"
These two posts translated: "I am oddly obsessed with tracking professional athlete's social media accounts and have this delusion that they are making these changes because of a thread on a forum most professional athletes avoid because of toxic weirdos such as myself"
Seems you’re a bit too triggered about these comments. Too close to home? When threads are created people look into what’s going on. Perhaps you’re the one oddly obsessed about what others think. Speaking of toxic weirdos
Dk what's been said on here but Klecker's indoor riding looks very impressive. He did an "easy hour" @ 224 weighted avg. watts today. Think some runners tend to overdo the cycling cross training since that's gotta be solidly Z2 for him but it looks like his HR was in the 120s for it. Yesterday he did some 30/30s @ 400/185 watts, 45s @ 375/185, 60s @ 355/185, into 2x10min @ 255. Pretty dang solid for a runner.
Impressive but a few caveats (from a cyclist)--he should go lower than 185 while recovering. Also, unless Joe is using an actual power meter, the Strava power estimates are usually very, very wrong (often over-estimating).
Conspiracy Theory: Andrew is pregnant. She recently found out.
Possible. Also possible the Wiley bots continue to attack her and she went private as a result.
Wiley bots? Is this an joke? Doubt anyone who follows Wiley gives a crap about Andrews. Wiley is a 20 yr old NCAA phenom who just started her career and primarily runs the 800. Andrews is pushing 29 and has plateaued in the 1500 and focusing now on the 5K. One runner has zero similarities with the other.