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  • high school xc coach

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    2 months ago 03/12/2024 10:20pm EDT
    re: Relay doc

    Relay doc wrote:

    Lyles has a lot more to prove if he wants a spot in the 4 x 400m in Paris. If 4 guys run in the 44s at the trials, which is highly likely, Lyles ain’t running. Lyles needs to run a sub 45 this season and hope 4 or 5 other guys don’t run in the 44s at nationals. The leg he ran in Glasgow was decent but definitely not great. He should run better outdoors on a bigger track while training for 100m and 200m. He’s going to need to show a lot more at 400m to get on that relay team for Paris. If he wants to rest on that Glasgow carry, I say no f’ing way he deserves to be on that team.

    my feeling is that none of those guys...Kerley, Lyles, etc. should sniff the 4x4 unless they want to go out and run an FAT 400 time within a month or two of the games that ranks in the top 4 for the USA. Maybe even top 3, because Rai is gonna get one of those spots and he deserves it.

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    2 months ago 03/12/2024 10:34pm EDT
    re: high school xc coach

    high school xc coach wrote:

    my feeling is that none of those guys...Kerley, Lyles, etc. should sniff the 4x4 unless they want to go out and run an FAT 400 time within a month or two of the games that ranks in the top 4 for the USA. Maybe even top 3, because Rai is gonna get one of those spots and he deserves it.

    Even if they clock a 44 at some meet, are we really going to trust them to pull it off in a triple or quadruple when there will certainly be fresh legs capable of the same or better?

    Noah has to break the 200m world record and run a 44 open midseason for me to be convinced he can quadruple.

    Fred is a better 400m runner naturally (there is NO WAY Fred goes to a meet and splits 45.mid) but I don’t see a scenario where he doesn’t already have his hands full in his main events.

  • high school xc coach

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    2 months ago 03/12/2024 11:01pm EDT
    re: snowdays

    snowdays wrote:

    high school xc coach wrote:

    my feeling is that none of those guys...Kerley, Lyles, etc. should sniff the 4x4 unless they want to go out and run an FAT 400 time within a month or two of the games that ranks in the top 4 for the USA. Maybe even top 3, because Rai is gonna get one of those spots and he deserves it.

    Even if they clock a 44 at some meet, are we really going to trust them to pull it off in a triple or quadruple when there will certainly be fresh legs capable of the same or better?

    Noah has to break the 200m world record and run a 44 open midseason for me to be convinced he can quadruple.

    Fred is a better 400m runner naturally (there is NO WAY Fred goes to a meet and splits 45.mid) but I don’t see a scenario where he doesn’t already have his hands full in his main events.

    Fred has been running 44 mids during early season meets the last few years.

    I do think these guys can handle running all their rounds and a 400 at the end. It's stunning to watch a high school kid who is well peaked run two full speed 300s and 2 full speed 4x2 legs, all within 3 hours of each other. and their times are consistent across the board with what you would expect from them.

    Asking the greatest in the world to run a couple 200s, a few 100s and a 400 on top of it over a 10 day period isn't nothing. but it's well within their wheel house.

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    2 months ago 03/12/2024 11:25pm EDT
    re: high school xc coach

    high school xc coach wrote:

    It's stunning to watch a high school kid who is well peaked run two full speed 300s and 2 full speed 4x2 legs, all within 3 hours of each other. and their times are consistent across the board with what you would expect from them.

    i was going to make fun of you for comparing the olympics to new balance nationals but on second thought youre right

    quincy wilson is a better 400m runner than noah lyles

  • high school xc coach

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    2 months ago 03/12/2024 11:55pm EDT
    re: snowdays

    snowdays wrote:

    high school xc coach wrote:

    It's stunning to watch a high school kid who is well peaked run two full speed 300s and 2 full speed 4x2 legs, all within 3 hours of each other. and their times are consistent across the board with what you would expect from them.

    i was going to make fun of you for comparing the olympics to new balance nationals but on second thought youre right

    quincy wilson is a better 400m runner than noah lyles

    the point is anybody who thinks the best runners on the planet can't run a 6th fast race in 11 days is severely underestimating what these guys can do. if they come out of their last individual race completely uninjured, they are ready to cook an extremely fast 400 without any issue.

  • Relay doc

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    2 months ago 03/13/2024 12:54am EDT
    re: high school xc coach

    Lyles is not a lock for 100m gold and the US is not a lock for 4 x 100m gold by a long stretch. Lyles ain’t a Carl Lewis or Michael Johnson, who were both ferocious competitors, albeit in different ways. I see a lot of fragility in Lyles. Beautiful sprinter though, except that 4x 400m carry in Glasgow looked choppy and strained.

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    2 months ago 03/13/2024 1:00am EDT
    re: Relay doc

    Equal likelihood Lyles wins gold in the 100m or he’s crying for his mama in the q room.

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    2 months ago 03/13/2024 1:02am EDT
    re: Relay doc

    LOL at Lyles putting sprinkles on that turd he ran on 4 x 400m during the interview.

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    NYDCRunner1

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    2 months ago 03/15/2024 4:01pm EDT
    re: querious

    querious wrote:

    Belarussiya wrote:

    Diversification by forced and unnecessary means. Getting Lyles on because he is a sprint star. Getting Boling on because he’s white and was popular in college. Getting the other two on a Gold medal race with their sub par credentials as B runners. A race needs the best runners , period.

    Respectfully, you’re an idiot.

    No respect should be given. Some of these posters are tiresomely stupid.

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    NYDCRunner1

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    2 months ago 03/15/2024 4:10pm EDT
    re: zcvxzcxv

    zcvxzcxv wrote:

    I'd love to see Grant Holloway on that relay. He could be counted on to give us a better shot at gold and he is so talented at multiple events that it seems as if he is being wasted in going only for the 110m HH, which is after all no guarantee for him like the 60m HH. We saw that in college he had the makings of a potentially great decathlete and certainly a great 400m runner.

    Holloway is inconsistent at the 110MH. He needs to win gold in his pet event first. He is not a shoo-in for any event. If he and Lyles want to be on the 4x4 team, then they have to deliver by running 400s this year to get an idea of their competency at that distance. It should not be handed to them on any platter - just because...

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