Patriot League Indoor 2024

On a team level it seems this year will be just as boring as ever.

Individually though, it seems as though the league is trending upward which is exciting to see. Navy with three sub 14 guys in the 5k in Smith, Kirkland, and Mumford is promising. The same three plus Keeny performed decently in the 3k as well.

Boston with Schneider and Collins had impressive showings in the mile, leaving me intrigued with how Collins will be able to compete in the 5k. Malleck is opening with a 3k tomorrow alongside most of the Boston squad. Interested to see what kind of shape he's in and what Schneider can run a 3k in, post-3:56. It's looking very likely that Schneider and Malleck go 1-2 like the 1500 outdoors.

We also have Sikaneta and Griner in the 800 tomorrow, I feel like Sikaneta's confidence may be a little shook after his mile at Beantown though.

Outside of Griner, Army is looking pretty weak in a lot of the running events so far. Luckily for them, Boston's sprints look to be in shambles so the battle for second place (Navy has all but guaranteed their win already) will probably favor Army after Boston chokes (again).

1 - Navy - favorite to win based on depth in every event, already 3 guys under 14 for 5k.

2 - Army - Griner posed to make NCAAs in the 800

3 - Boston - where are Gabe Sanders' sprinters? Their sprints are atrocious. distance and throws carrying them

4 - Bucknell - a balanced attack with sprinters, jumpers, throwers, and relays.

5 - Lehigh - Harvey injured? Mott high jumped 2.10 or 6'10 and Lovering should score in throws. Overall a much weaker team than in the past, they miss Matt Utesch.

6 - Holy Cross - Mazzoca will score big in hurdles and HJ, Lyons ran 4:07 mile can help relays

7 - Colgate - Blair should win the long jump and score in triple. their relays combined should outscore Lafayette and American over DMR, 4x8 and 4x4

8 - Sullivan is rolled and Reeves is out of shape. Kluth is the real deal and should break 1:50 if healthy. Where is the good sprinter they recruited?

9 - Lafayette - an abysmal team showing in the dual with Lehigh. their 4:10 miler ran 4:26. Truly pathetic across the board.

Schneider December 3:56 is more irrelevant than the fact the most of the BU team is Canadian . Doubtful that he’ll run anywhere near that the rest of the season. Especially considering his result from this weekend…

Considering BU is hosting, this indoor meet might not be such a travesty again. On the other hand we’ll have to see all of Gabe’s cheerleading for his non existent rebuilding.

Navy poised to overwhelm everyone with 16 entries per event & all of their athletes quadrupling at a minimum.

Army runner up on both just because they have the second most entries even though they have the biggest budget in the PLC and because Hershberger is the biggest human I’ve ever seen in real life.

Boston 3rd or 4th because they too aren’t immune to athletes getting hurt on flat tracks.

Bucknell, 3rd or 4th because of Donner power and because of the “flat duece” and its ridiculous exploitation of the conversion charts.

Everyone else will be just watching or going to get Cane’s chicken and toast.

Boston U sprinters rankings in PLC:

60m - 1 athlete in the top 20 (tied for 2nd)

200m - 1 athlete in the top 20 (11th)

400m - 1 athlete in the top 20 (6th, and it's a middle distance runner)

60h - ZERO athletes in the top 20

4x4 - ranked 4th (3:22, barely ahead of Colgate)

High jump - ZERO athletes in the top 20

PV - zero in top 13

Long Jump - 1 athlete in top 20 (7th)

Triple Jump - zero athletes in top 20

How are they this bad? They are getting dominated in the sprints and jumps by Army, Navy, BUCKNELL, LEHIGH, COLGATE, AND HOLY CROSS. All of those teams are projected to score more points in sprints, jumps, hurdles and relays than BU.

Seems to have run pretty darn close to it

Seems Schneider nearly matched it. Malleck going 3:55.8 in the same heat, Schneider seems to be just be a bit behind from racing later into the fall season. Collins with a very strange 4:01, closing in 27. I would wager he's close to sub 4 shape as well.

Smith and Keeny both had great 3k's going under 8 minutes, Navy is looking to be very lethal in the event, same as the 5k.

Tune ups are over people! Shoutout to BU for having 3 guys under 4. I know supershoes are adding 2 seconds.. still, they would have 2 under 4 right now in the zoom victory era.

Team race wont be much of a race but some of these events are loaded. Have you seen how deep the men’s 800 is, best it has ever been indoor- the list is looking like an outdoor list right now. DMRs and 4x8s should be nutty!

What happened to the BU boys in the mile? only 2 qualifiers for tomorrow's final, and the 3:56 guy went home devastated...?

thats just what happens when its Dakin Ebmeyer time baby

That happens every year. Kickers with 4:02-4:05 prs almost always knock out the BU guys that have significantly faster PRs.

Can we talk more about how the BU got zero points in the 60-200-400, the head coaches event area? They could’ve made a surprising run for the title if they had any sprinters. Also- Army men scoring basically nothing in the distance events, that was rough to see.

Anyone know the beef that went down between Navy and Army?! Seemed like there was some drama again.

Overall thoughts?! My two cents is that BU or Navy should host indoor every year. The marks put up were the best they have ever been across the board. How many school records and meet records were broken. Plus Kent’s 200m and Griner’s 800 would never have happened on the Bucknell track (woof) or at Lehigh (barf).

Any surprises out of people?!

Why did Army get DQ'd in the 4x4? Griner ran an epic leg to win for Army, it's a shame they were disqualified.

Why did BU have their best athlete do 5 events when the team is more than 100 points out of 1st place and more than 40 behind 2nd place? Malleck - mile prelims, mile final, 3k, 4x8 and DMR.

They were safely in 3rd by nearly 50 points ahead of Bucknell. No wonder their entire team is always injured.

BU did put up more distance points than any other program…

BU 69 (nice)

Navy 64

Army 41

Collins is the real deal

BU should always have the most distance points. They are like the United Nations with 1 athlete from every country. They also have 5th years (Malleck) that Army and Navy cannot do.

But BU also has the most questions. Where is Prosser? Why didn't she run at NCAAs in cross. Liljegren is hurt too? Vesty ran a 4:07 mile but did not compete at PLC? Why did Schneider struggle to run 4:09 and 1:55 in the relays with his 3:56 PR?

Very nice!

BU's distance squad is solid on the oval, no doubt. But the Keeny DQ clearly affected this ranking. Right or wrong for the DQ there's zero doubt that Keeny was the clear runner up in that mile.

Army and Navy have unlimited scholarships and rosters…

Just pointing out the success of BU this year. They are much improved from a few years ago…even though this forum never seems to think so. Also Holy cross had some good middle distance results too.

COLGATE ON DA PODIUM BABYYY! LES GOOO! HOW DOES BU ALMOST LOSE TO COLGATE IN THE DMR LMAOOOO