He is an athlete. The coach can get him past admissions while minorities still have to go through even though their standards are lower than for other normal admits.
I knew he wasn't a STEM major lol
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Law of the Land wrote:
I have listened to way more than an interview. I have listened to multiple podcasts who hosted him. He sounds like a knucklehead. He admits that he knows nothing about running. He admits that he runs dumb races. He said that his fresmmen drank too much at his celebration. Just becuase he had to sumbit a test score doesn't mean he had a good test score and just becuase he had a decent test score, doesn't mean he is smart.
just stop man.
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Sounds like you haven't listened to the podcasts. Which thing that he said are you having trouble grappling with?
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Law of the Land wrote:
Sounds like you haven't listened to the podcasts. Which thing that he said are you having trouble grappling with?
Yes I’ve listened. He’s articulate and his answers are calculated. Always downplays his abilities and gives all credit to his coach and team. What is not to like? The kid was not a big recruit out of high school. He was going to school for academics. He is at Harvard as an economics major and has managed to win every XC race this year and then demolished the 5k ncaa record and achieved the Olympic standard, all while being a student at Harvard. What are you trying to prove?
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I like him. I like Valby. Both seem sort of clueless. That doesn't mean that they aren't good students and relatively smart. I merely pointed out that as an athlete, he may not be a regular Harvard student. Remember the Varsity Blues? Most of those kids had parents pay to get ther kids past admissions by coming through the athletics route becuase coache are able to push a bunch directly through.
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Oh look, philosophy students are good at philosophy stuff.... let's see what happens if they take the FE.
Philosophy is a great double/minor and generally attracts bright students. The logical reasoning of philosophy is actually quite similair to how STEM students think. However, the degree's overall utility in the real world is very limited.
I'm sure Graham Blanks is "smarter" and will have a better post-running career than the majority of his competitors.
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amkelley wrote:
I suspect that even athletes who get admitted to Harvard are very smart, regardless of their major.
Back in 2005, a lacrosse player at my HS told people that he'd been told a 1200 on the SAT would be enough to get him into Yale. Ever since then, I've taken admissions to elite schools with a grain of salt; 10 years later when I was TAing at Columbia, I indeed saw a lot of variation 😃
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Josh439 wrote:
Philsophy is a fine degree to get a bachelors in as long as you pick something more practical for your masters.
What's more practical than learning to think and express oneself accurately? (And if you want to learn something practical, don't get a master's degree, for God's sake. Become an apprentice to a plumber or electrician. We need those people more than we need people with master's degrees.)
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RunJumpSwim wrote:
As an engineer, I can assure you that the required math courses (multivariable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.) are just a bit more difficult than the math classes high school students take…
When I was in high school, I took classes in linear algebra and differential equations. Of course, I then screwed everything up by majoring in philosophy.
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Avocado's Number wrote:
Josh439 wrote:
Philsophy is a fine degree to get a bachelors in as long as you pick something more practical for your masters.
What's more practical than learning to think and express oneself accurately? (And if you want to learn something practical, don't get a master's degree, for God's sake. Become an apprentice to a plumber or electrician. We need those people more than we need people with master's degrees.)
You realize a degree in philosophy is the polar opposite of going into the trades, right? One group can actually do something useful, the other can't.
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Avocado's Number wrote:
RunJumpSwim wrote:
As an engineer, I can assure you that the required math courses (multivariable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.) are just a bit more difficult than the math classes high school students take…
When I was in high school, I took classes in linear algebra and differential equations. Of course, I then screwed everything up by majoring in philosophy.
Generally speaking, high school level math typically ends with pre-calculus or basic single variable calculus. Coursework beyond that, such as AP Calculus or the linear algebra / diff EQ classes you supposedly took, are considered college level math. Given that only a handful of gifted high school kids will take these types of advanced courses, it is disingenuous to state that those pursuing engineering degrees are taking "high school" math.
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RunJumpSwim wrote:
Avocado's Number wrote:
When I was in high school, I took classes in linear algebra and differential equations. Of course, I then screwed everything up by majoring in philosophy.
Generally speaking, high school level math typically ends with pre-calculus or basic single variable calculus. Coursework beyond that, such as AP Calculus or the linear algebra / diff EQ classes you supposedly took, are considered college level math. Given that only a handful of gifted high school kids will take these types of advanced courses, it is disingenuous to state that those pursuing engineering degrees are taking "high school" math.
This is what you said, and that I responded to: "As an engineer, I can assure you that the required math courses (multivariable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.) are just a bit more difficult than the math classes high school students take…"
When I was a senior in high school, I took a third-semester calculus class at a local university, followed by courses in differential equations and linear algebra. There was nothing disingenuous in what I said; I didn't characterize those subjects as "'high school' math." I was merely describing classes that I was taking in high school, and that, to use your locution, were apparently "just a bit more difficult than the math classes" that you and some other high school students were taking. But this was hardly Putnam Exam material.
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RunJumpSwim wrote:
\"STEM\" is a joke wrote:
Science, Technology and Engineering are not math. Their students hardly have to study any more math than a high school student.
It's ironic that people think of math as something purely quantitative. Fundamentally it is an expression in language. That's why they give you "word problems" to set up.
As an engineer, I can assure you that the required math courses (multivariable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, etc.) are just a bit more difficult than the math classes high school students take…
More difficult for you, maybe. Hardly more difficult for anyone studying theoretical math, who can finish all that by the end of freshman year starting with only AP calc credits.
STE folks consistently kid themselves that their "background" in math is somehow impressive.10
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