No, you're not dense. My point is Herb retired at 22. He was done with the sport and both the physical and mental side of training and racing. His coach was also controversial and he suffered a great deal of criticism because of that. Jordan may have just mentally and physically exhausted herself and needs to step away. Perhaps it's only a break, perhaps she has found true happiness and we'll never see her race at the top again. In either case she deserves to be recognized for what she has accomplished. She also deserves the respect of her privacy.
Looking at her Instagram posts she appears to be healthy and training but hasn’t raced in what seems like forever and no announcement to do so. She recently got married and today is her 32nd birthday. She still appears to be sponsored by Nike but they’ve surely drastically reduced her contract based on the last few years.
Do you think that she’ll ever be competitive again?
I doubt that she will ever race again. I like her career is over. She has been through a lot, mentally and physically. It will be best if she retires and focus on other things, maybe like coaching…
She's 32, even if she had a big super successful career she would be on the very tail end of it now.
Sineed Diver ran 2:21.34 at age 46 last year, that means Hasay has well over a Decade of good running in her
No, it doesn't mean that. Not everyone ages biologically at the same rate, not everyone has the same running background, nor does everyone have the desire to compete at an elite level for decades.
If she's finished (either physically or mentally), God bless her. Let her move on to other things.
Jordan's career to date is quite unique and does give one reason to wonder what happened. She was a HS prodigy, ran pretty well in college, but nothing extraordinary. She joins a coach who is later banned from the sport, and makes massive leaps in performance at the longer distances. Coach get's pushed out of the sport, and around that same time she can no longer run a half marathon near the pace she once ran for twice the distance. Not saying there was foul play going on, but you'd be crazy not to consider.. especially with how close she had become with her coach.
Agreed. I consider her "didn't quite make it" story even more compelling than Mary Cain's, because Cain's failure was at least in part predictable. When Hasay was in HS, she seemed to be doing everything right, or as right as you can do: not overtraining, not over-racing, no psycho parents, not racing marathons at 15, none of the usual indicators that a flameout is coming. And heck as others have said, she was solid throughout college and for a while post-college. Just wild that she could never put it together to make the Olympics. Go back in time to 2008 at the Trials and tell the fans she'd never be an Olympian, they'd never believe you.
Jordan's career to date is quite unique and does give one reason to wonder what happened. She was a HS prodigy, ran pretty well in college, but nothing extraordinary. She joins a coach who is later banned from the sport, and makes massive leaps in performance at the longer distances. Coach get's pushed out of the sport, and around that same time she can no longer run a half marathon near the pace she once ran for twice the distance. Not saying there was foul play going on, but you'd be crazy not to consider.. especially with how close she had become with her coach.
Substitute Herb Elliots name and mile for the distance and then ask the question. Does it make sense??
I see no parallels between their two careers. Elliot never lost a mile or 1500 his entire career. Then he retired after complete domination because he needed to provide for his family. Your comparison is what doesn't make sense.
No, you're not dense. My point is Herb retired at 22. He was done with the sport and both the physical and mental side of training and racing. His coach was also controversial and he suffered a great deal of criticism because of that. Jordan may have just mentally and physically exhausted herself and needs to step away. Perhaps it's only a break, perhaps she has found true happiness and we'll never see her race at the top again. In either case she deserves to be recognized for what she has accomplished. She also deserves the respect of her privacy.
Herb Elliot ran in the amateur era. He had to choose between running and getting a job and moving on in life. They are not comparable.
Jordan's career to date is quite unique and does give one reason to wonder what happened. She was a HS prodigy, ran pretty well in college, but nothing extraordinary. She joins a coach who is later banned from the sport, and makes massive leaps in performance at the longer distances. Coach get's pushed out of the sport, and around that same time she can no longer run a half marathon near the pace she once ran for twice the distance. Not saying there was foul play going on, but you'd be crazy not to consider.. especially with how close she had become with her coach.
Agreed. I consider her "didn't quite make it" story even more compelling than Mary Cain's, because Cain's failure was at least in part predictable. When Hasay was in HS, she seemed to be doing everything right, or as right as you can do: not overtraining, not over-racing, no psycho parents, not racing marathons at 15, none of the usual indicators that a flameout is coming. And heck as others have said, she was solid throughout college and for a while post-college. Just wild that she could never put it together to make the Olympics. Go back in time to 2008 at the Trials and tell the fans she'd never be an Olympian, they'd never believe you.
First of all, it's stupid to call Cain a failure. She's not a failure. If you've heard her story you'll understand what happened and how. Many of you hear Mary Cain and are deadset on calling her a burnout even though she explained what happened in very serious detail.
I do think when it comes to Jordan there were signs. I just hope she's healthy and doing better.
No one amounted to anything on the world stage. Some it is too early to tell. Sisson is the only one that has done well.
15:25.93 Natalie Cook (Flower Mound, Lewisville, Texas) 2022 15:34.47 *Jenna Hutchins (Science Hill, Johnson City, Tennessee) 2020 15:37.12i **Katelyn Tuohy (North Rockland, Thiells, New York) 2018 15:45.46 *Mary Cain (Bronxville, New York) 2013 15:46.28i *Ellie Shea (Belmont, Massachusetts) 2023 15:48.91 Emily Sisson (Parkway Central, Chesterfield, Missouri) 2010 15:49.47i ————**Shea 2022 15:50.32 Cayla Hatton (Phillips, Andover, Massachusetts) 2012 15:52.10 *Charlotte Bednar (Lawrenceville, New Jersey) 2021 15:52.88 Caitlin Chock (Granite Bay, California) 2004 **10 performances by 9 performers** 15:55.75i Brie Oakley (Grandview, Centennial, Colorado) 2017
The one that kills me the most on here is Mary Cain. There's no way to know, but if she didn't link up with Salazar and trained elsewhere, I truly believe she would have been world class.
She's 32, even if she had a big super successful career she would be on the very tail end of it now.
Have you not heard of Sara Hall (neé Bei)???? I mean If you think Jordan is through at 32...um.. what?
She's probably through and that's okay.
Sara Hall is a different person than Jordan.
It's clear Jordan has struggled enormously with staying healthy in her prime years. It seems like she's found a different calling moving to Pennsylvania and training on her own terms. It's unlikely based on her past issues with health that she'll come back and have a hall like career.