Biological Male Will Be Racing In Girls Division At CA State Meet

Even though Johnson is in, Buckley scratching to run the 3200 should have let the 5th place runner in. The situation still exists, even if Johnson is on the state heat sheet, the next person is still missing out on their spot.

Continuing, I’m 99% sure that the 7th athlete from the Southern section was allowed into the state meet because of a protest or appeal after one of the 3 falls during the race, NOT because the CIF granted an extra spot because of Barrett

I assume he's referring to Asbel which is ironic as he tested positive for EPO later - which, to be honest, is similar to what they're doing since they have an unfair advantage over the rest of the field.

I get wanting to smash the patriarchy but the trans thing is exactly opposite of doing that. They can't have it both ways--it's not fair to the women who worked their tails off the right way!

It did seem she let up upon re-watch--they were all in a pack at 2:27 at the half, then she pulled back with 200m to go and the two girls in the black singlets placed ahead of her.

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Oh that poor child. I heard his parents are actively seeking opinions from other adults on how best to parent their child, so maybe your expert advice has a chance to get heard.

The white knightery boings up to delightfully ridiculous levels, now exhorting even the happily winning girls to make sacrifices for a cause of existential importance mostly to the white knights.

Opinion polls are just that, and fickle at that, just like polls used to be anti gay-marriage before they became pro.

It takes time but there always eventually comes a time in a democracy where the conscience of a significant majority can no longer condone suppressing the dignity and pursuit of happiness of people different from themselves.

Agreed. This isn’t on Sadie or any of the girls. Adults are the ones who failed them.

I definitely think this calls for a loud but peaceful protest at the meet. It’s good to see protesters at the last meet but now that we know what’s going on maybe more will show up and stand up for the girls.

No, that was because guards were getting inmates pregnant.

There was outcry. But people are even bolder now than they were last year

I find it odd that anyone would want to allow biological males to compete against biological females. It is an inherently unfair competition. How is it possible that anyone can not see this?

You are correct that opinions change over time.

Support for gay marriage is at an all-time high (71% favor it), and that includes favorability (above 50%) among those over age 65, Protestants, and Republicans. Really, the last hold outs on gay marriage (at about 40%) are those who "attend church weekly."

But you know what the HUGE difference is?

Gay marriage does not take anything away from other people. It does not trample on the rights of other people. When gay people marry, a wedding is not denied to a heterosexual couple. Nobody "loses."

I welcome you to compare that to what happens in sports when one person wins (another loses), when one person earns a spot in a final (someone else doesn't), when one person makes "All-NCAA/State/Conference" (someone else does not).

Opinion polls DO change.

I predict that as more and more XX humans lose out on things they have earned, support for trans girls/women in sports will DECREASE.

The position that "trans participation doesn't hurt anyone" is proving to be 100% a lie.

Where I got those stats:

news.gallup.com

Same-Sex Marriage Support Inches Up to New High of 71%

Justin McCarthy

Seventy-one percent of Americans say they support legal same-sex marriage, a new high in Gallup's trend.

Link:news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-m...

Sure, I’ve presented the premise for what you are asking in bold multiple times in posts on these boards. We are comparing the happiness of a tiny fraction of competitive women athletes (and a vanishingly small fraction of all women) that would have medaled move down a spot and thereby lose earnings against a tiny fraction of the already small fraction in the population of trans women facing at least the same consequence; in fact, with today’s rules, they have no shot at all at competitive sport.

Why is one tiny group’s happiness more important than the other’s and what is the quantifiable impact? Please show me an economic analysis. (I’m uninterested in stupid responses like “because it is inherently unfair for biological males blah blah blah”.)

The metaphor is that someone with atrocious form and JV level male times obviously held back against some of the best females in the country

I don't buy it about the Maryland mom saying the kids on the team don't care. I think everyone is so afraid of being cancelled that they just say it's ok to avoid trouble for themselves and their families.

Making a choice to be uninterested in science is rather convenient for you, I'm sure.

This is not an issue about economics. It IS an argument about fundamental fairness. We will favor one small group's pursuit of happiness over the other's because one group has more of a right at stake than the other.

XX humans clearly have more of a right to participate in girls' sports than XY humans do.

Unlike gay marriage, in which more of it normalizes it, the MORE XY humans you have in girls sports, the bigger problem it will obviously be and the faster the push back will come.

(And as I have posted before, I am a Democrat, and a proud liberal).

GOOD! REAP WHAT YOU VOTED FOR.