Need help finding a non-super foam racing flat

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    webb3.0

    Member since 07/11/2022.

    5 posts. Last post 6 months ago.
    1 year ago 04/24/2023 1:00pm EDT

    Hello LRC,

    Years ago, I had all kinds of knee pain from running in traditional
    trainers. I gave racing flats a try and they fixed my numerous running injuries
    almost instantly. For 10 years now, I have been running a racing flats. First,
    I was running in the Nike Streaks, then, I transitioned to the Saucony
    Fastwitch when the Streaks were discontinued. Now, it appears Saucony has
    pulled the Fastwitch.
    I cannot run in the "super foam." I have tried two different pair
    of racing flats that have this foam and both ended with me unable to run
    because of knee issues. It seems like the super shoe has completely killed off
    the market for racing flats with "normal" foam. Does anyone know of a
    shoe that is still made from non-super foam?
    If you know of something, my knees will thank you.
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    kirkandorules

    Member since 09/18/2020.

    663 posts. Last post 4 months ago.
    1 year ago 04/24/2023 1:28pm EDT
    re: webb3.0

    Maybe something like a Puma Liberate Nitro or a Skechers Horizon Vanish? Still a little bit more cushion than old school racing flats, but more firm than today's typical trainer and nowhere near super shoe level.

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    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 04/24/2023 2:05pm EDT
    re: webb3.0

    Adidas Adios are mostly traditional EVA with just a small wedge of superfoam in the forefoot and no carbon plate or "energy rods". To me they ride a lot like older flats like the NB 1400, you don't really notice the forefoot wedge much. A bit taller stack height than traditional flats though.

    There's also the RC5, which is very much a bare-bones traditional racer. Unfortunately it seems like kind of a cheap entry-level flat that was built to a price point - so no Continental rubber outsole, the upper's not all that great, and the midsole is all pretty firm Lightstrike EVA (not Lightstrike Pro which is their superfoam).

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    Kvothe

    Member since 12/04/2008.

    7,706 posts. Last post 2 days ago.
    1 year ago 04/25/2023 8:19pm EDT
    re: webb3.0

    You might still be able to find nike streaks, saucony fastwitches, and new balance 1400s on ebay and poshmark.

    Zoot makes a triathlon shoe that is a racing flat.

    You can still get minimal flats like the mizuno wave cruise and asics sorties from japan/asia via ebay but you pay a premium. Cruise feels like a more minimal version of a nike streak lt sorta.

    The new saucony sinister is a real light minimal 5k/10k flat.

    Market is pretty short on flats right now. Seems like 99% of people respond well to the super shoes and bounce their way to new prs. I'm with you man, racing flats need to comeback - I too get leg and foot issues from the new style racers.

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