What part of elite sports seems healthy to you?
Your generation is soft.
What part of elite sports seems healthy to you?
Your generation is soft.
There’s about 10 guys ahead of Joe in the 5k that have run under 12:50… he isn’t a medal contender. Kudos for a tough run though.
Was Klecker really in extreme distress after the race? Was it a Salazar after 82 Boston moment? Do you recall Hassan after the 10 in Tokyo? She looked like she was going to die too. Hassan was fried for the next year and a half because of her efforts in Tokyo, so there is such a thing as pushing it too far both physically and mentally. In the Olympics or at the close of a marathon major to win, it’s epic bravery, but if you do it at BU in January, it’s dumb.
He was definitely Ritzed after that one.
Nothing a trip to the bacta tank can't fix.
He has never medalled at worlds/Olympics before or really looked like a massive medal threat to be honest. If he doesn’t win a medal this year it won’t be because of this race, it’ll be because there are better runners than him in the race
Relax, it's just the vax
You two sound like drama queens yourselves.
Make your minds up guys. Was he trying very hard or not?
bob the blob wrote:
So if I'm uncomfortable during races, I should slow down? Bro do you even race?
He does race. And he races poorly.
"I'm willing to die in a race." - Paul Chelimo
"No human is limited." - Eliud Kipchoge
These are the attitudes of the repeat mens distance medalists from Rio and Tokyo.
drbop wrote:
His dad was a champion snowshoe racer who had a legendary ability to push himself to the outer limits. I saw him (Barney) set the world 50 mile road record running on a 10 mile loop -- his splits were 56, 56, 56, 56, 67 -- for a WR of 4:51. That last 10 miles looked painful.
I wasn't sure if the above was a joke or not. It's true!!!
On the podcast after BU, I did raise the question similar to the OPs but not with nearly the drama of the OP. The point of a race is to run hard, but can you go too hard? We've heard of lots of runners having whacked endocrine systems like Salazar but that may have been because they were hammering the crap out of themselves all the time i practice as well.
I think he'll be fie,.
Lul wrote:
Bro are you suggesting that you shouldn’t run all out in races? You sound like a beta. As a runner myself I have ultimate respect for someone like Klecker who has the balls to achieve greatness. Sure maybe he could’ve of passed out and lost a day or two of training, but in the end your remembered for your races.
First time I’ve ever upvoted a post that called someone a beta.
Running a hard indoor 5k will take it out of you. Indoor air quality is rough and the constant turning is not a sensation most 10k+ runners race very often.
Oh dear, oh dear. Is he still alive? Maybe he should have held back and not run sub 13?
cramister wrote:
Some guys just show the pain more than others.
Or maybe Joe is clean and it just hurts more
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The whole point of racing and competing is seeing how deep you can go. He learned he can go beyond what he thought possible and come through to the other side. I would argue that's a huge breakthrough. Assuming he recovers properly, the next time he's in a race I bet the effort will feel just a bit lighter, and he'll know when the racing gets serious he can go as deep as anybody.
That's what I don't get about so may pros not racing much. You can't go to that place in practice and only if you won't win anything if you can't go that deep. You get better at racing by racing.
ummm...
(1) Klecker got a PR
(2) after race, he took SIX days easy, then did an easy threshold workout
(3) He pulled out of race the next weekend
(4) pound sand
Now I've heard it all;)! wrote:
What? That's quite a reach, even for LR. Over analysis can lead to paralysis.
From studies done on boxers and race horses, you are only capable of a couple all-out efforts in a season. Obviously, you physically try push yourself as hard as you can in every race, but in reality, you are operating less than 100% because you can't give the same emotional energy to every race. As a long-distance runner, I don't think you can go the well more than 2-3 times in a season. What you plan for is for those 2-3 times to happen in a national or global championship.
This is the most p*ssy take I have ever heard. Racing is about pushing through the pain and not allowing your body to tell you to stop.
I was the first to respond and never looked again. Now I see that it's still going?
Joe does NOT have the late race turnover that most of his top competitors do. He busted butt to get away from Woody and then hung on running a pace that he'd never run before. Take Woody out of that race and it'd be "great race by Joe Klecker" and how tough he was.
He left nothing on the table and tried to break away and it worked, he set a PR...he just ended up in 2nd place.
Great race Joe!
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