Was Richard Kosgei the fastest college steeplechase runner of all time

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1 year ago 01/09/2023 1:15am EST

During the Summer of 1993 he ran 8:12.68 and beat the best in the world at the time Moses Kiptanui to win the Bislett Games. The World Record at the time was 8:02.08. His college PR is 8:06.88 ran in 1993 or 1994. His first or second year of college. I don't know any freshman or sophomore who have ever run that fast. He had a bad race at the Kenyan Trials for the World Championship of 1993 and finished 4th. Richard was ranked 2 or 3 in the world at the end of 1993 track season. He then returned to USA to run one more year at Barton College in Kansas. He later took money and lost his college eligibility in the Summer of 1994 when he ran in some major track meets. I don't remember any college steeplechase athlete running this fast in history and at that level. He also ran those times in the Summer after a full college indoor and outdoor season that he would run numerous events at every meet to help his team. He would run everything from the 1k to the 10k in college.

1 year ago 01/09/2023 1:21am EST

re: his Freshman year 8:06:88 1993

Henry Rono at Washington State in the steeple 8:05.4 in Seattle 1978

1 year ago 01/09/2023 1:37am EST

re: Steeple.People

Steeple.People wrote:
Henry Rono at Washington State in the steeple 8:05.4 in Seattle 1978

8:05 would be the world record at the time. Richard ran 8:06. So Richard was 2nd fastest of all time!

1 year ago 01/09/2023 7:27pm EST

re: his Freshman year 8:06:88 1993

his Freshman year 8:06:88 1993 wrote:
During the Summer of 1993 he ran 8:12.68 and beat the best in the world at the time Moses Kiptanui to win the Bislett Games. The World Record at the time was 8:02.08. His college PR is 8:06.88 ran in 1993 or 1994. His first or second year of college. I don't know any freshman or sophomore who have ever run that fast. He had a bad race at the Kenyan Trials for the World Championship of 1993 and finished 4th. Richard was ranked 2 or 3 in the world at the end of 1993 track season. He then returned to USA to run one more year at Barton College in Kansas. He later took money and lost his college eligibility in the Summer of 1994 when he ran in some major track meets. I don't remember any college steeplechase athlete running this fast in history and at that level. He also ran those times in the Summer after a full college indoor and outdoor season that he would run numerous events at every meet to help his team. He would run everything from the 1k to the 10k in college.

Richard was the man during those years! There wasn't a college runner who could beat him. The thing is he would not destroy the other runners he ran against, no he would just do whatever it took just to win. I saw him in numerous meets running 5,000 in 14 something and 10ks in 29 or 30 and he was just jogging. This was after he ran a 8:06 3k steeplechase the Summer before. He would race up to how good the other runners were in the race. I only saw him lose one collegiate race. It was a 1k indoors in 1993 or 1994 at the University of Kansas indoors. He had run a few races and let another Kenyan runner hang around for to long and was out kicked. This was his only loss and he ran against Arkansas and all all the top teams, he even ran in a cross country meet with Joe Falcon. Only lost that one time the whole time in USA.

1 year ago 01/09/2023 7:38pm EST

re: Dam

Dam wrote:
his Freshman year 8:06:88 1993 wrote:
During the Summer of 1993 he ran 8:12.68 and beat the best in the world at the time Moses Kiptanui to win the Bislett Games. The World Record at the time was 8:02.08. His college PR is 8:06.88 ran in 1993 or 1994. His first or second year of college. I don't know any freshman or sophomore who have ever run that fast. He had a bad race at the Kenyan Trials for the World Championship of 1993 and finished 4th. Richard was ranked 2 or 3 in the world at the end of 1993 track season. He then returned to USA to run one more year at Barton College in Kansas. He later took money and lost his college eligibility in the Summer of 1994 when he ran in some major track meets. I don't remember any college steeplechase athlete running this fast in history and at that level. He also ran those times in the Summer after a full college indoor and outdoor season that he would run numerous events at every meet to help his team. He would run everything from the 1k to the 10k in college.
Richard was the man during those years! There wasn't a college runner who could beat him. The thing is he would not destroy the other runners he ran against, no he would just do whatever it took just to win. I saw him in numerous meets running 5,000 in 14 something and 10ks in 29 or 30 and he was just jogging. This was after he ran a 8:06 3k steeplechase the Summer before. He would race up to how good the other runners were in the race. I only saw him lose one collegiate race. It was a 1k indoors in 1993 or 1994 at the University of Kansas indoors. He had run a few races and let another Kenyan runner hang around for to long and was out kicked. This was his only loss and he ran against Arkansas and all all the top teams, he even ran in a cross country meet with Joe Falcon. Only lost that one time the whole time in USA.

Ironically, I was in that race at KU. Was it Eliud Bargentuny that won that k?

1 year ago 01/09/2023 7:58pm EST

re: 30 years hence

30 years hence wrote:
Dam wrote:
Richard was the man during those years! There wasn't a college runner who could beat him. The thing is he would not destroy the other runners he ran against, no he would just do whatever it took just to win. I saw him in numerous meets running 5,000 in 14 something and 10ks in 29 or 30 and he was just jogging. This was after he ran a 8:06 3k steeplechase the Summer before. He would race up to how good the other runners were in the race. I only saw him lose one collegiate race. It was a 1k indoors in 1993 or 1994 at the University of Kansas indoors. He had run a few races and let another Kenyan runner hang around for to long and was out kicked. This was his only loss and he ran against Arkansas and all all the top teams, he even ran in a cross country meet with Joe Falcon. Only lost that one time the whole time in USA.
Ironically, I was in that race at KU. Was it Eliud Bargentuny that won that k?

Small world! It was in 1993 then. I remember he had a smile on his face after it like why did l let him stay with me?

1 year ago 01/09/2023 8:05pm EST

re: 30 years hence

30 years hence wrote:
Dam wrote:
Richard was the man during those years! There wasn't a college runner who could beat him. The thing is he would not destroy the other runners he ran against, no he would just do whatever it took just to win. I saw him in numerous meets running 5,000 in 14 something and 10ks in 29 or 30 and he was just jogging. This was after he ran a 8:06 3k steeplechase the Summer before. He would race up to how good the other runners were in the race. I only saw him lose one collegiate race. It was a 1k indoors in 1993 or 1994 at the University of Kansas indoors. He had run a few races and let another Kenyan runner hang around for to long and was out kicked. This was his only loss and he ran against Arkansas and all all the top teams, he even ran in a cross country meet with Joe Falcon. Only lost that one time the whole time in USA.
Ironically, I was in that race at KU. Was it Eliud Bargentuny that won that k?

. Yes here is something on the both of them.

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1 year ago 01/09/2023 8:10pm EST

re: Dam

Dam wrote:
30 years hence wrote:
Ironically, I was in that race at KU. Was it Eliud Bargentuny that won that k?
Small world! It was in 1993 then. I remember he had a smile on his face after it like why did l let him stay with me?

I remember it being a guy dressed in a dark purple. They accelerated away from me on that last lap like they were doing an all out 200. I think the track was oversized, if I also remember correctly. Wow, I am OLD.

1 year ago 01/09/2023 8:42pm EST

re: 30 years hence

30 years hence wrote:
Dam wrote:
Small world! It was in 1993 then. I remember he had a smile on his face after it like why did l let him stay with me?
I remember it being a guy dressed in a dark purple. They accelerated away from me on that last lap like they were doing an all out 200. I think the track was oversized, if I also remember correctly. Wow, I am OLD.

Correct! It was a mad sprint. Yes KU! It was like 300 meters. It was near the end of the meet because l had already ran the 5,000 myself. I was thinking 1993, but l don't think l ran in that meet in 1993, so now l am thinking 1994 February. That would make sense since it was Richards second year and his only loss.

1 year ago 01/09/2023 8:43pm EST

re: his Freshman year 8:06:88 1993

No it was probably Anthony Famigigleieti

1 year ago 01/09/2023 8:45pm EST

re: Dam

Definitely 1994! Late January or early February!

1 year ago 01/09/2023 9:18pm EST

re: his Freshman year 8:06:88 1993

WR steeplechase Seattle WA 5/13/78 hail, rain, windy, 55 degrees. 200+ attendance.

1: 8:05.4 Henry Rono WSU

2. 8:36.1 Jim Johnson CNW

3. 8:52.1 Evens WSU

4. 8:54.7 Barr CNW

63.8

66.2 (2:10.0)

64.0 (3:14.0)

65.5 (4:19.5)

65.3 (5:24.8)

65.1 (6:29.9)

61.4 last lap

After the last lap, the wind really came to life, hitting 15-20 mph. “It was very hard after 5 laps,” he said. “The last 200 meters were hard too.”

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