The kids commenting like this are the type to idolize that Elbert Saliva chode.
The kids commenting like this are the type to idolize that Elbert Saliva chode.
high school kid who really came 2nd and his family and coach probably don’t think it’s funny. A grown man sneaking into a race for high school boys. That’s perverted and creepy. He could up with some criminal charges before this is all over, or a restraining order at the very least.
Says hers the guy who won doesn’t know the loser grown man who ran in the high school boys race.
Quotes from winner state he and his coaches are angry and don’t know the man who ran in the boys race. Race officials are in contact with police.
Pretty basic, he identifies as a high schooler. Why all the hate?
Questions the police will have will be related to this man possibly using the boys changing area and restrooms, trespassing, fraud, and child endangerment.
IMO this is one of the more underrated stories in the sport - hence my username. When you read about it, it sounds made up. A couple tidbits:
- He applied under the name Alexi Santana to imply that he was Hispanic since he found that entry standards were a bit lower for Hispanics due to diversity requirements - however selected to not specify his ethnicity on his entry
- His application said he was a sheep herder that had lived under the stars for the past 10 years while reading Plato and that his visit to Princeton was his first time sleeping indoors in 10 years
- His application also said he read an absurd number of books, and this was actually a point they had a hard time believing and tested him on - but he was able to answer questions about each one they asked about, so this seemed legit (he was clearly actually smart)
- The connection to track is he was a good runner as well. Originally ran at Wyoming, then went back and ran high school in Palo Alto (hence the connection here), later went to Princeton while too old for the NCAA
The New Yorker article is a good summary if you don't want to read the book
There are no changnig rooms. Restrooms are portapotties which are available for boys and girls so no issues with any of those things. The police will not be involved. Thousands of fans crossed the racecourse that day. If he broke a law, thousands did.
Us old geezers never forgot old Alexi. In a time before the internet had taken off, he was talked about from coast to coast by college runners and (as I was at the time) recent alums. As rojo noted, the strangest thing about that story - and that's saying something, truly - is what a good guy he seemed to be in his Alexi Santana persona and also how well he was doing academically. If you look at Hogue's life, you see he is a compulsive liar and thief, and had been even in high school. You see a guy who has also been in more trouble for burglaries and fake personas and so on even since the time of his Princeton scam and Harvard theft problems. He later built a cabin deep in the wilderness outside Telluride, Colorado where he kept all the stuff he would steal from rich people's ski lodges and so forth, where he was also known by a false persona. But at Princeton, it honestly felt like he was at least TRYING to become someone else, i.e. a good person -- like he was only using a fake identity to separate from his real past, and not simply as a front for his thieving, like he did at Harvard (as "Jim McAuthor") or as he later did in the ski-towns of Colorado. Trying to erase his old life and step into a new one without all the baggage of his thieving and swindling past. He apparently wasn't stealing stuff or doing anything else untoward beyond falsifying his identity. That's what made his story so complex for people, and why a lot of people were willing to forgive. It was such a random coincidence that someone from the California high school would be at the meet at Yale to recognize him, but of course the Ivy League brings in kids from all over. I always thought if he'd been willing to pull the scam at a prestigious but not quite Ivy school, like Emory or someplace, he might well be living as Alexi Santana to this day.
As to Mr. Hebert -- well. I think the truth lies somewhere between the ones yelling "SEND HIM TO PRISON" and the high schoolers saying "no big deal!" His answers to the MileSplit interviewer suggest to me he's lost some mental faculties. When the interviewer says college kids can't run in high school races, and his answer is basically, "I'm not in college though," focusing on exactly the wrong part of the question, one suspects he must be pretty well cracked upstairs. But I also don't think there is a whole lot of harm done here ultimately, though that would have been different had he "won" or if he'd impeded or hurt an athlete along the way. Get this kid before a psychiatrist, posthaste. I think Kevin Sanchez's answers about the incident were very mature and hit the scope of the banditry correctly -- he called Brendan an idiot but said it didn't take away from his experience or his team's placing. That's about where I'd stand on the issue as well.
No question in my mind that he did this on a bet with some friends. He is likely $1000 richer and the hero of his possey.
A grown man trespassing in Texas schools and events will be taken seriously by police. The Santa Fe, TX school shooting was a massive lapse in police response to a school invasion.
This particular invasion of a school event by a grown man will be setting off alarm bells for school security, especially because this man seems to have mental health issues.
What a loser wrote:
A grown man trespassing in Texas schools and events will be taken seriously by police. The Santa Fe, TX school shooting was a massive lapse in police response to a school invasion.
This particular invasion of a school event by a grown man will be setting off alarm bells for school security, especially because this man seems to have mental health issues.
He's probably only a threat if he has read the threads on how to carry a gun while running.
bandy wrote:
No question in my mind that he did this on a bet with some friends. He is likely $1000 richer and the hero of his possey.
This is the kind of bet you make when you know that your "friend" is so desperate for attention and belonging that they'll willingly make terrible decisions in attempt to look cool and fit in. People don't worship you as a hero for winning such a bet. They laugh at you.
Nope. You don't understand 23 year old male runners. This guy is now the hero of thousands of young men.
“An official from the UIL told MileSplit that it planned to make a report to the police about Hebert and will take all necessary actions going forward to make sure nothing like Hebert's unprecedented actions happen at a future UIL-sanctioned event.”
You don't seem to understand the law. If he trespassed, thousands of spectators did who crossed the course. If a guy walls across my yard and another guy walks across it a few times, both are equally guilty of tresspassing.
bandy wrote:
You don't seem to understand the law. If he trespassed, thousands of spectators did who crossed the course. If a guy walls across my yard and another guy walks across it a few times, both are equally guilty of tresspassing.
If one person walks across my yard with my permission and then a few minutes later another person walks across my yard without my permission, second person is guilty of trespassing while the first is not.
bandy wrote:
You don't seem to understand the law. If he trespassed, thousands of spectators did who crossed the course. If a guy walls across my yard and another guy walks across it a few times, both are equally guilty of tresspassing.
Someone who runs on the field during a state championship football game would most likely be arrested right?
this man may need a mental evaluation
Sad really
No Brendan you are not a hero. You a creepy, weird man.
You are 23 and you dug out your old high school uniform, put it on, and illegally ran in a race for high school kids.
You are a grown man. You don’t violate spaces meant for children!
You are lucky the parents at the event didn’t get wind of what you were while you were there.
Your name is all over the internet about you invading a school space. This is going to be an issue for you moving forward with relationships and jobs.
You have brought shame on your former high school, the university of Texas and yourself.
You need to apologize, explain yourself, and check yourself in for a mental health evaluation.