I took Theraflu before a cross country race in high school and ran a PR. This was back in 1986. Until today, I had no idea that the Theraflu I took contained a performance-enhancing drug.
I took Theraflu before a cross country race in high school and ran a PR. This was back in 1986. Until today, I had no idea that the Theraflu I took contained a performance-enhancing drug.
Please don't post here anymore. This is a drug free website.
Don't worry, the new NYRR chairman's excessively paid job with obscene pension is safe. It's the NYRR board after all, they are extremely woke and where you have woke you will always find a huge helping of hypocrites. The NYRR is a registered "charity" with the IRS and accepts donations, yet I think we've all seen the huge salaries the NYRR chairman and the rest of the board chose for the executives, which they will also have chosen for themselves, too.
Here's the latest known salaries for some of the NYRR executives, benefits and pensions would be extra:
Key Employees and Officers Compensation
MICHAEL CAPIRASO (PRESIDENT/CEO/BOARD MEMBER) $569,566
JAMES HEIM (SVP/TECH. DIRECTOR EV DEV & OPS) $320,041
JAMES GROOMS (SVP OF LEGAL/ASST. SECRETARY) $316,830
Those salaries are completely obscene and should be illegal for a registered "charity". You can tell by the board's lack of ethics that they are not going to care one bit about one of their elite circle taking drugs.
She said she was prescribed it from her doctor for asthma but was banned for 3 months.
A friend emailed me the link outraged as he viewed it as a hit piece that doesn't accomplish much.
Considering that she was banned for doping, either having a prescription wasn't enough and a TUE was required, or she "lost" her prescription.
In any case, what's your friend's point? Should they make an exception because the doping occurred over 20 years ago, or because the ban was comparably short?
In either case, that could be written into the rules about their races and leadership positions (and then it wouldn't be zero tolerance for dopers).
Don't worry, the new NYRR chairman's excessively paid job with obscene pension is safe. It's the NYRR board after all, they are extremely woke and where you have woke you will always find a huge helping of hypocrites. The NYRR is a registered "charity" with the IRS and accepts donations, yet I think we've all seen the huge salaries the NYRR chairman and the rest of the board chose for the executives, which they will also have chosen for themselves, too.
Here's the latest known salaries for some of the NYRR executives, benefits and pensions would be extra:
Those salaries are completely obscene and should be illegal for a registered "charity". You can tell by the board's lack of ethics that they are not going to care one bit about one of their elite circle taking drugs.
Lol. How much do you think a ceo or svp of an organization that size based in Manhattan should be paid?
Yeah, if it were a company trying to turn a profit. The point is that NYRR mascarades as a charity to get tax benefits, and then, in order to avoid being “profitable,” they pay their top people absurd amounts of $. The only reason the organization appears so large is the number of “volunteers” that do it once a year at the marathon or because they are roped into doing so as a requirement of the 9+1 to run the marathon. Total sham organization.
Would be very impressive if the NYRR found the courage to fire a person of color. I am doubtful it has that kind of courage but maybe. If she did mislead the organization by hiding this, then at least they have some kind of basis for termination.
but they are so terrified of being attacked as a white elitist organization that it's hard to believe they would risk walking back into that hellhole. They had to fire their CEO a couple years ago for this kind of thing and they don't want to return to that world of pain.
She said she was prescribed it from her doctor for asthma but was banned for 3 months.
A friend emailed me the link outraged as he viewed it as a hit piece that doesn't accomplish much.
Considering that she was banned for doping, either having a prescription wasn't enough and a TUE was required, or she "lost" her prescription.
In any case, what's your friend's point? Should they make an exception because the doping occurred over 20 years ago, or because the ban was comparably short?
In either case, that could be written into the rules about their races and leadership positions (and then it wouldn't be zero tolerance for dopers).
Exactly. She’s responsible for what goes in her body. It doesn’t matter if some XC kids take theraflu or eat a burrito and PR because they aren’t pros. If her excuse was legitimate, she wouldn’t have been suspended. Once a doper always a doper and NYRR has a supposedly zero tolerance policy, but will look the other way for their big boss.
The point is that NYRR mascarades as a charity to get tax benefits, and then, in order to avoid being “profitable,” they pay their top people absurd amounts of $.
Oof. These people generate value: They bring in donors and donations. (If they don't, they don't keep their positions.) You have to compensate them accordingly, or you won't get people of a high-enough caliber to get the job done. Anyway, in Manhattan making a third- or even half-million as the head of a major non-profit is by no means "absurd." Welcome to New York, son.
Footnote: I did read that article in the Times and it's not clear that Nnenna (note the correct spelling, rojo) actually had the drug in her system at a level that would register as a positive nowadays. Also, were TUEs even a thing back then? I guess they must have been, but hasn't that whole system changed in the decades since?
My issue is this organization has a zero tolerance policy for athletes who have served bans. They don't allow them to compete even after their ban isdone. I dont care if it was a lifetime ago for ms lynch, the fact is she is the head of the boardof this organization that now has a hypocritical policy. Either they rid of ms lynch, or rid of the policy
The point is that NYRR mascarades as a charity to get tax benefits, and then, in order to avoid being “profitable,” they pay their top people absurd amounts of $.
These people generate value:
That’s the point though. They are all about bringing in money to the organization and their partners and aren’t a charity. They charge runners $50-100 for non-marathons, so the major function of the organization is self-pay (compared to other runs in NY that cost much less to enter). So they partner with chairties for big races, which again, they athletes pay for in order to gain entry. And they still take a cut from what the charities pull in. I’ll say it again: they are a SHAM charity.
And I’m from NY, homeboy, so I know what it’s like here. Just don’t pretend to be a charity. Then I couldn’t care less how much you make.
Considering that she was banned for doping, either having a prescription wasn't enough and a TUE was required, or she "lost" her prescription.
In any case, what's your friend's point? Should they make an exception because the doping occurred over 20 years ago, or because the ban was comparably short?
In either case, that could be written into the rules about their races and leadership positions (and then it wouldn't be zero tolerance for dopers).
Exactly. She’s responsible for what goes in her body. It doesn’t matter if some XC kids take theraflu or eat a burrito and PR because they aren’t pros. If her excuse was legitimate, she wouldn’t have been suspended. Once a doper always a doper and NYRR has a supposedly zero tolerance policy, but will look the other way for their big boss.
Pseudoephedrine is in a whole bunch of over the counter cold medicines. Most multi-symptom cold medicines are going to have 2 main ingredients. Acetaminophen as a pain reliever and fever reducer, and Pseudoephedrine as a decongestant.
I think we can differentiate between someone who tested positive for an OTC cold medicine, though it is a banned substance, and someone busted for EPO or the like, especially when it was 26 years ago.
Lynch just announced that she's grooming Shelby to be her predecessor in 15-20 years when she retires. Sources say the two discussed how in 2040 Houlihan will be viewed as a sympathetic martyr who shouldn't be punished just because she a craving for some "authentic" Mexican food several decades ago.
Exactly. She’s responsible for what goes in her body. It doesn’t matter if some XC kids take theraflu or eat a burrito and PR because they aren’t pros. If her excuse was legitimate, she wouldn’t have been suspended. Once a doper always a doper and NYRR has a supposedly zero tolerance policy, but will look the other way for their big boss.
Pseudoephedrine is in a whole bunch of over the counter cold medicines. Most multi-symptom cold medicines are going to have 2 main ingredients. Acetaminophen as a pain reliever and fever reducer, and Pseudoephedrine as a decongestant.
I think we can differentiate between someone who tested positive for an OTC cold medicine, though it is a banned substance, and someone busted for EPO or the like, especially when it was 26 years ago.
LMAO, if it’s that common then she should have known to avoid the medication or received approval. Somehow thousands of other professional athletes avoided putting a banned substance in their bodies in 1996.
That’s the point though. They are all about bringing in money to the organization and their partners and aren’t a charity. They charge runners $50-100 for non-marathons, so the major function of the organization is self-pay (compared to other runs in NY that cost much less to enter). So they partner with chairties for big races, which again, they athletes pay for in order to gain entry. And they still take a cut from what the charities pull in. I’ll say it again: they are a SHAM charity.
And I’m from NY, homeboy, so I know what it’s like here. Just don’t pretend to be a charity. Then I couldn’t care less how much you make.
I understand where you are coming from, but NYRR is a not for profit organization which is different than a charity. I don't know if their work is deserving of those salaries or not, but those salaries are in line with other non-profits of similar size and location.
The NFL was set up as a 501c6 for many years and the top salaries in that orginazation are siginficantly higher than the NYRR. If you can think of any other similar non-profits, I'd be interested to look up their form 5500 to see what some of the top salaries are.
Pseudoephedrine is in a whole bunch of over the counter cold medicines. Most multi-symptom cold medicines are going to have 2 main ingredients. Acetaminophen as a pain reliever and fever reducer, and Pseudoephedrine as a decongestant.
I think we can differentiate between someone who tested positive for an OTC cold medicine, though it is a banned substance, and someone busted for EPO or the like, especially when it was 26 years ago.
LMAO, if it’s that common then she should have known to avoid the medication or received approval. Somehow thousands of other professional athletes avoided putting a banned substance in their bodies in 1996.
There's already several first hand accounts of people here in this thread inadvertently taking it, as it is a commonly used OTC cold medicine. Sure, not pros, but it points to the fact that way easier to inadvertently take pseudoephedrine than something like EPO or testosterone or other PEDs. Given the nature of the drug I don't think her violation is serious enough that it should ruin her forever. Psuedafed once 26 years ago... Seriously!
I think we can differentiate between someone who tested positive for an OTC cold medicine, though it is a banned substance, and someone busted for EPO or the like, especially when it was 26 years ago.
Well yes, that's why she got a shorter ban. And if NYRR is fine with doping bans of 3 months, then they should say so. But so far they haven't.
LMAO, if it’s that common then she should have known to avoid the medication or received approval. Somehow thousands of other professional athletes avoided putting a banned substance in their bodies in 1996.
There's already several first hand accounts of people here in this thread inadvertently taking it, as it is a commonly used OTC cold medicine. Sure, not pros, but it points to the fact that way easier to inadvertently take pseudoephedrine than something like EPO or testosterone or other PEDs. Given the nature of the drug I don't think her violation is serious enough that it should ruin her forever. Psuedafed once 26 years ago... Seriously!
That’s the point: pros are different than random runners. I don’t have to worry if my masseuse is rubbing “the cream” on me. I can eat burritos and not worry they contain pork offal. I don’t have to worry about secondhand weed, if I have left over stem cells from an unborn twin in utero, or whatever other creative excuses dopers come up with.
When I was in college, red bull was a banned substance because it had something in it that triggered a positive test. So even though it was incredibly common, you didn’t drink it if you were on the team. That simple.
I don’t care about excuses from dopers. Lynch can work in any other job she likes and make as much money as her heart desires. But she shouldn’t be in a position of leadership for a running organization that has zero tolerance policy against doping when she got convicted for that same offense.
LMAO, if it’s that common then she should have known to avoid the medication or received approval. Somehow thousands of other professional athletes avoided putting a banned substance in their bodies in 1996.
There's already several first hand accounts of people here in this thread inadvertently taking it, as it is a commonly used OTC cold medicine. Sure, not pros, but it points to the fact that way easier to inadvertently take pseudoephedrine than something like EPO or testosterone or other PEDs. Given the nature of the drug I don't think her violation is serious enough that it should ruin her forever. Psuedafed once 26 years ago... Seriously!
Who said it was once? She only got caught one time.