Influencers getting rich off poor suckers *cough Matt Choi cough*

Yea, the guy is way full of himself. It’s sad that he has 100k+ followers I guess I just don’t understand social media

There’s some IG runner dude who ran D1 for two years at UNI and has “first team All American” in his bio. He presumably hopes you don’t check results and find out he was AA in juco before he transferred to UNI. Gotta love technical truths.

He's not forcing anybody to pay for these programs.

People who suck at running giving training advice. That is whole gist of running influencers.

How has nobody mentioned whether this $1000 training program includes 1-on-1 coaching?

I know people here are poor, but it's quite common for coaching costs to exceed $1000. For piano teacher, tutors, personal trainer, etc.

If people are paying for some $1000 PDF file then it's braindead. If they are paying $1000 for some 1-on-1 instruction then that is just how non-poor people do things.

Matt’s a stud. Get in where you fit in, haters.

Guy popped up, because good coaches not have enough attraction on the media, and joggers will buy his plan, you ask yourself how many good coaches make reklama on social media? You don't need to go fareway, take our "magician" JS, he put finger in every ass, bombing and spamming every thread, and... he got runners... The problem is that pro athlete almost never shared their training, you ask them something why you run like this, why like that, never heard from them any adequate answers... but like this guy, blogger -joggers are replying, make content and due to hard find proper information, hobby joggers catch and listen those bloggers... open any their youtube channels and check what kind of stupid questions asking beginners, why? The running community itself has poor knowledge, they see some broken puzzle information and of course mess up everything in their training. One jogger asking is it ok my plan? and show plan with 3 days per week intervals @vo2max, but his mileage is only 20miles and easy pace 9++, you tell him, just make a base with easy miles and long run 2-3 months easy running and you progress even from that, but he says, no this is pullsh@t, I want intervals..., why do you want intervals?🤦‍♂️ you show him books, methodology, core routine, and so on... LOL 🤦‍♂️

This Matt Choi guy popped up on the Mark Bell podcast.

The video is titled ELITE RUNNER Matt Choi.

Elite????? He's not elite. He's not sub-elite. He's not even sub-sub-elite.

So, he wants to talk about running? That's fine. Rock out with your compression sock out. But let's not be so loosey goosey with the term "elite".

You have a choice.

Don't follow them.

Also, learn some sentence structure...

You contributed nothing to this thread short of confirming that you are insecure.

The market for these grifters is lazy illiterate people though. That's the amazing thing about youtube --- it lets you reach a giant pool of the aforementioned groups

The baffling thing is that people would pay that when there are countless excellent goal-based training schedules available for free from the likes of runbritain and runningfastr that I can confirm work very well. If anyone is thinking of paying $1000 to this 2:58 guy for online coaching they might be interested to know that the Hawkins brothers offer online coaching from $650 a year and Callum Hawkins has run 2:08, 4th at world champs (twice) and 9th at Olympics. Might possibly get a little more bang for your buck from the latter option.

Yea, other have rightly pointed out the running fast does not equal good coach. That said, absent any objective evidence that someone is a good coach their own running credentials can certainly be used as the next best proxy to inform if this person knows what they are talking about.

As to folks saying just don’t follow, etc. fine. That said, it is ethically wrong to misrepresent a person/product in order to inflate sales. It is literally illegal in regulated spaces. That is what he is doing… he is misrepresenting himself through clever marketing in order to overcharge for a crappy product. This is wrong IMO. Just like MLMs are wrong and take advantage of people.

As far as I am concerned this dude should be excommunicated from the running world.

It's like if I bench pressed 305 and decided to call myself an elite powerlifter.

I know this could be construed as the wrong thread for this, but Seth DeMoor is a legit mountain runner that walked on at CU under Wetmoor, has two Pikes Peak wins, has run a 1:05 Half Mary, a 2:22 Full Thon, has busted his tailight publishing 2500 daily vlogs, offers community/inspiration for free (although one can choose to support him) rather than crappy coaching, and yet the criticism of Choi pales in comparison

I think it's just a couple of obsessed weirdos who make mountains of posts about him. Most of us just sort of ignore Seth DeMoor.