Jakob's ability in the 10k right now

He is currently getting tested, so:

Now: 26:35

If clean: 27:15

Usain Bolt would run a 20 flat 10k according to Letsrun logic. Or perhaps this logic wouldnt be extended to Bolt, so lets say Matthew Boling instead.

So dumb. Literally no one here has ever said that or would ever say that.

Funny thing is there were tons of people on here saying that Bolt could jog a sub 15 5k and 4:10 mile back in the 2000s. But not to derail the thread, you said yourself that Jakob could match Farah's 26:44 based on his 12:48, so I don't think it's unreasonable to predict something in that range given his high mileage and endurace based training.

You don't think a prime WR shape Bekele, Gebreselassie or Komen could have gapped him? He was THAT good?

Physiology doesn't work as neatly as that. You can't simply draw a line from one time to another on a Daniels performance equivalence graph, and say it's as good as done.

Jakob is much heavier than other runners who've run as fast as him over the 5,000m distance, and weight becomes a far more limiting factor as the duration of the event increases. There's a reason why only one man whose body weight exceeded 65kg has ever run under 27 minutes (Solinsky). Note: I'm not sure how much Grant Fisher weighs.

At a guess, I'd say he maybe just sneaks under 27 mins, but he'd need perfect pacing and excellent weather.

Jakob and Fisher do have similar fitness this year. Jakob faster on the last 150. Fisher needs to take a leap of faith (like he's done twice in the US over 5000 in 2022 prior to worlds.)
Grant, I'd love to see you make your signature move in a stacked Diamond League 5000 field. Roll the dice, grab the lead with 3-4 laps to go and HAMMER. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

Jake Wightman just won his first global medal - a gold, no less. He's 28.

At the age of 28, Eliud Kipchoge moved to the marathon after going 9 years without being a contender on the track. He's looked like he was from another planet in the event

You might want to learn something about the sport before your next post. Eliud was consistently a contender on the track and during the time you reference he got 4th in 2005 in Helsinki 5000m. Eliud got the Silver medal in 2007 in Osaka 5000m and another Silver in 2008 in Beijing 5000m. He broke 13 every year between 2003 and 2012 except 2008. He ran 26:49 and broke 27 at least twice more. So maybe you should brush up on the facts.

Sure and if Jake goes on to win another 9 Gold medals and 2 Silver medals it would surely be shocking.

So do you think Jakob struggles to maintain pace in his longer tempo runs too?

Agreed.

2007 I'll give you, 2008 he might as well have been in a different race. The point remains, absolutely nothing about Kipchoge's career before 2013 suggested he could go on to be the untouchable marathoner he has been. He won nothing over 5000m and rarely broke 60 for HM. You're kidding yourself if you think you would have predicted he'd be the GOAT based on his pre-2013 career. Late development happens and in Kipchoge's case, it was probably very late given the speculation about his actual age

Yes, those three could have gapped him at specific points in their careers. Could they have done it consistently, over a period of six global championships? No way. It's a real shame that peak Farah and peak Bekele never overlapped. We should be thankful that we have what is likely peak Cheptegei around to compete with Jakob at what may be his peak or at least on the upward curve

He's 47

I don't think you know anything about his training.

1. He doesn't do longer tempo runs. He does intervals at lactate threshold.

2. What pace? He doesn't run to any prescribed pace - he runs to a designated effort, which is designed to produce a lactate reading below 4 mmol.

3. Even if he did do "longer tempo runs", that wouldn't be remotely relevant to the point I've previously made. Holding "tempo" pace, and running under 27 minutes for 10k share no relationship.

But Jakob only weights 65kg. Jimmy Gressier ran 27:24 ALONE. Jakob jogged past him at european xc in a 10k, and Jakob is known to be much better on hard surface than on soft surfaces.

In fact Jakob literally jogged a 27:50 10k in 2019 in the pouring rain. He was late to the race, didn’t get to warmup, and even had to remove his jacket during the race. He literally jogged around for 20 minutes with Filip and his norwegian friends before taking off and closing in 2:36 or something. The course was wet and hilly. I’m sure Jakob at the time would have run sub 27 on the track in spikes if he had perfect conditions and wasn’t alone.

Now imagine what he could do now that he’s 3 years older.