Jakob's ability in the 10k right now

We are likely dealing with a Mo Farah type here, and equally doped up.

1:46

3:28

12:48

26:45

Something like the above. In that ballpark anyway.

Yeah, no way would he be slower than 27. I'd say 26:4X and wouldn't be surprised if he dipped under 26:40.

Knock it down to 1245 and 2630. He's an aerobic monster and it's hard to imagine him being slower than Grant Fisher.

Yeah perhaps but of course Farah never ran that fast. Some of this would depend on Jakob committing to a fast 10000m with some pacing through 6000m. Not likely to happen.

You say Jakob is an aerobic monster. And I say yeah but not to the point where he is the best 10000m runner in the world. He is not, although in a championship setting he might be difficult to beat.

Nah there is no way he could run 26:30 training for 1500/5000 without some more specific work, probably closer to 27:00. 26:30 with a cycle of 10,000 training possibly.

I don't care how much threshold he does, you aren't gonna run top 5 all time in the 10,000 without specific prep.

I don't think we'll get to see Jakob in a 10000 anytime soon. doesn't really work with his favorite race distance of 1500. would be great to see him run a half in valencia or some place like that. COuld give us a decent idea of where he stands in the longer distances.

Well, he's ready a sub 12:45 5000 and then ready a sub 26:30 10000 with his strength

You are saying he is the greatest all around runner we have ever seen. I don’t think so. IF he could do that he could break 7:20. I see no evidence for this.

12:45 and 26:30 are proportional times that a 5/10K runner would accomplish and Jakob is clearly a 1500/5000m guy. Even if he focused on the 10000m, he’s always going to better at 5K. Aerobic monsters are not uncommon at the Olympics.

If Jakob were to set out for PBs right now with wavelight and top pacers, I think the marks his team would target are 12:40 and 26:30. Yes, I'd have more confidence in the 5,000m goal but he believes and probably has good reason to believe based on his testing and workouts he can run really well at 10,000. Executing is a different matter especially over 25 laps.

Yes 12.45 and 26.30

He and Fisher are in equally good shape this year, but Jakob has the kick and the confidence.

26:30 in a paced TT with lights. His training is all on the threshold, he's made for the 10k. He'd be a devastating championship racer over the distance as well, very much like Farah

I dont know how that would be. He got high vo2 max mainly due to the mutation that increases his hemoglobin. It means he can focus on thresholds year around.

I would never no matter the distance bet on Fisher above Jakob, in my opinion they are not equal at all

This is going to sound crazy but you can look it up on here: Bekele NEVER did any specific training for 10k. He also didn't run one at his season peak, with wavelights, etc.

He ran 2617, in May, no pacers after 4km, no wavelights, off PURE 5k training.

That's why I think 2630 is a theoretical time Jakob, or Mo Farah, could hit with pacers, wavelights, and PERFECT conditions, at season peak.

I remember watching Jakob run that WC 5k prelim (13:13), and I'm pretty sure he spent the first 12 laps thinking about where he could take a dump after the race was over.

Maybe he won't be as good at 10k as he is (or will be) at 5k, but all the Jakob doubters always point out that he has been training like a professional since he was 3 or something. Maybe he won't improve a ton in the 1500, but all that aerobic/threshold training is going to pay off when he tackles the longer distances.

5k and 10k training didn't vary for the all-time greats like Geb, Bekele, and Farah. Jakob is a talent on the level of Bekele. If and when he moves to the 5/10, he'll dominate both. I'd love to see him go for the 10k at Euros.

Maybe 26:30 isn’t what it used to be (due to the shoes) but if it is, Jakob is unlikely in that shape. Some of you forget that Hicham was a better runner than Jakob has been so far, and I very much doubt you folks thought Hicham could run 26:30. So suddenly you have this Norwegian and he is the best runner the world has ever seen, he can do pretty much anything he wants. This is not the reality. Jakob is unlikely to ever run 26:30.

El G was a pure 1500 guy who managed to work up to a few very good 5k results. He only ran the 5k for two years late in his career. Jakob is an entirely different type of runner, arguably less suited to the 1500 than the longer distances due to his training.