White Rock Marathon-Liza Hunter-Galvan

That faint whisper you just heard? That would be the point flying high above your head.

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This makes me wonder - how many 'local' runners take EPO in the US.

and who was the runner that offered her 'advice'

and how did she actually get hold of the EPO - has she owned up to these bits of info so steps can be taken to stop more cheats?

runner40 wrote:

and who was the runner that offered her 'advice'

and how did she actually get hold of the EPO - has she owned up to these bits of info so steps can be taken to stop more cheats?

ALL that information is on HER message board threads on NZRun.com

Surprisingly, Wejo didn't pick up on this.

Exactly what is the extent of drug cheating on the US roadracing circuit, particularly since most races don't test.

Look, if an unsophisticated soccer mom can get EPO....anyone can get EPO....including that guy who beat you for the age group award at your local 5k last weekend.

Just sayin'.....

Enough with the "unsophisticated soccer mom" crap. This woman has been doping since 2005, at least. She was a world-class runner and a world-class cheat. Of course she's going to say it was just this one time.

But yes, probably almost anyone can get EPO.

Agreed. I don't understand why no one has picked up on the Laredo connection.

Angel Heredia who was busted for running 'roids through the Texas border town has also come up in the BALCO investigation.

Laredo and San Antonio are about 2 hours away.

Once Liza ran a race in Laredo for $250 1st place when another race in South Texas offered $1,000 for 1st on the same day. Sure Laredo was closer I think most people would drive the extra 2 hours to pick up an extra $750.

Sure seemed like Laredo was more important and this was 3 years ago or so.

i've seen the NZRun thread but that is just conjecture (?sp) - it would seem that although she has admitted to EPO use she hasn't given the other information out...

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Nothing like exploiting your kids for sympathy. Goddamn drug cheat.

Leaver her alone.

She was so emotionally beat up by the accident, the mean spirited NZ Olympic committee and her hamstring injury that she felt like she had to do something. She just wanted to be better and running is what makes her happy.

She didn't even know it was EPO at first, she thought it was wound healing amino acids. Then she only took it only three times and threw it away. She didn't even take it until that mean email for the NZ committee that said "You failed!' I mean how can that taint her whole career? And she suffered enough, I mean her husband was upset with her.

We all need to look at what we did to help her get to this point. There are contributing factors. She kept giving more and more and it was never enough for us!

Our trials are not excuses for us to do wrong. There are many others with pressures and hardships but chose to do things the right way. Liza's mistake is forgiveable but not unexcusable.

Assuming my sarcasm detector is still functional, nice.

LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOONEEE!!!!!!!1!one

You guys are crazy if you thinks she was making "big" money on the roads. Yea she made some but it would have been a fraction of what she could have made doing countless other things. Running is hardly a lucrative sport unless you are at the very top. She didnt have big sponsorship deals or receive appearance money. There were probably only a couple of big paydays in her whole career. Hardly comparable to Marion Jones.

The selection criteria from ANZ for international competition is very specific, and is applied to all athletes. Firstly, meet the qualifying time and, secondly, demonstrate the likelihood of a top 16 placing. The problem that LHG had, was that she had a long history of substandard performances, DNFs etc, at top level international meetings. It was felt by the selectors that her qualifying times were attained at soft meets, and that there was every chance she would fall over again, when the real athletes showed up. As it turned out, they were right.

As for the "you failed" sympathy card being passed around, it's a classic out of context quote, being used to deflect attention. The previous line stated that "you failed to meet the performance criteria". The next line was merely reiterating the first. Every athlete who did not perform as expected at Beijing recieved exactly the same notification. No one else burst into tears. The criteria was very specific, and everyone understood it.

The treatment that LHG received was no different to that of any other NZ athlete.

She has used every trick in the book to try and get her test results thrown out on technicalities, and is now trying to use the media to justify her deliberate choices. We've all had tough times in our lives, and we still chose not to cheat our colleagues. Dragging her kids into this merely showed the level of desperation. I'm glad that no one is buying into it.

I know this thread is old... but TOLD YAAAAAAAAAAAAA