Also have to mention that Saratoga was missing junior Mansfield who was scoring last year at sections, which will make this team stronger for the next 2 years if he returns.
And 4 of Nisky’s top 5 are juniors. They will need to find another guy for next year.
Saratoga boys team got a nice freshman and under class.
I was gonna say it would be nice to get some speed ratings for this, but it’s ok if we don’t get them because there aren’t that many teams so they wont be accurate probably. VVS speed ratings should be posted and will be more accurate probably
burnt hills raced again. Keller Casey is back but that made Rounds #4 on the team.
Burnt Hills should also work on finding a #5 for next year
PTXC 10
http://milesplit.live/meets/486883/events/2/F/M
St Anthony’s dominates the gold race and puts 5 guys under 16:32. 3 of those guys are seniors. If they keep it up they should go to NXN. Their 6th and 7th guys were 10:03 and 4:35 runners last spring. So they got depth which is exactly what they need and what helps them. They just need to have 5 guys put together an A-race at NXR.
Bronod wrote:
VVSFM girls - great top 5. Looking to be the case again for the next 2 years. Top 5 has a freshman and 2 sophomores. This team always seems to have youngsters come up.
CNS is a really good and really young team.
Looks like all teams are running their varsity and JV together.
FM boys - McGinn FTW with a 15:42! 2 years ago he was midpack JV. Perry was farther behind Otis than I thought he was gonna be. Also, look how far apart every single one of their top 5 were. I expected much better than this. 4 scorers are seniors too. FM was also missing Weires from last year’s varsity. Doesn’t look close to a team that belongs at NXN and will need their 3-4-5 to step up and be on if they really wanna go.
Webster Thomas #4 is better than FM’s #4.PTXC 10
http://milesplit.live/meets/486883/events/2/F/M
St Anthony’s dominates the gold race and puts 5 guys under 16:32. 3 of those guys are seniors. If they keep it up they should go to NXN. Their 6th and 7th guys were 10:03 and 4:35 runners last spring. So they got depth which is exactly what they need and what helps them. They just need to have 5 guys put together an A-race at NXR.
More results coming in from VVS. Monroe-Woodbury's boys look very solid - both they and Saratoga annihilated FM in the merge. Corning races in a couple hours.
On the girls side, Saratoga was barely better than FM, but were missing at least one scorer. Boyle apparently didn't run for CNS.
Saratoga girls team was missing a Wheeler, and Hart was farther behind their top 3 than she was last year. I really think they are vulnerable this year on a national level if it stays like that. Wouldn’t be surprised if Buchanan wins. They brought back everyone and got some new good freshmen. Niwot added some freshmen too.
Considering that this is the pre-state meet, on the course for this year's public-school state meet... NY's boys are really weak this year. Wow.
Have to say it... wrote:
Considering that this is the pre-state meet, on the course for this year's public-school state meet... NY's boys are really weak this year. Wow.
Yep, except Corning hasn’t raced yet. Saint Anthony’s did really well at PTXC though.
burnt hills didn’t race here.
The only way Burnt hills has a chance to qualify for NXN is by: Rounds being ahead of Windecker again, Casey and Smith racing well together, getting a 5th runner up with them, and St Anthony’s choking at NXR
Bronod wrote:
Yep, except Corning hasn’t raced yet. Saint Anthony’s did really well at PTXC though.
burnt hills didn’t race here.
The only way Burnt hills has a chance to qualify for NXN is by: Rounds being ahead of Windecker again, Casey and Smith racing well together, getting a 5th runner up with them, and St Anthony’s choking at NXR
Look at the lack of quality for individuals. McMahon obviously didn't run full-out, but it is incredibly thin.
This is a very slow course, last year it ran slower than Bowdoin park. With that said yeah you’re right this is probably the worst year I’ve ever seen for NY on the guys side and unfortunately next year doesn’t look too much better.
NY Guy wrote:
This is a very slow course, last year it ran slower than Bowdoin park. With that said yeah you’re right this is probably the worst year I’ve ever seen for NY on the guys side and unfortunately next year doesn’t look too much better.
Fairport also crushed FM in the merge. Corning is up next, last race of the day.
Yeah I think FM boys team isn’t relevant at all this year, until their 3-5 seriously step up.
and the sadder thing is that McGinn is the only non-senior that scored. There’s also another senior (Weires) who ran a 142 last year and will maybe score for them depending on his fitness.
so what is the fm boys team gonna do after this year? Recruit studs from other schools? They will need 4. Could finish high at nationals if they recruit 4 guys on the same level as Nolan McGinn.
Corning had the same thing going as St Anthony’s. Good pack but lack of a low stick. Or maybe bange didn’t have a great race or wanted to pace others. But that’s ok. It’s still early
looking forward to seeing speed ratings of St A and Corning!!!
Bronod wrote:
Yeah I think FM boys team isn’t relevant at all this year, until their 3-5 seriously step up.
and the sadder thing is that McGinn is the only non-senior that scored. There’s also another senior (Weires) who ran a 142 last year and will maybe score for them depending on his fitness.
so what is the fm boys team gonna do after this year? Recruit studs from other schools? They will need 4. Could finish high at nationals if they recruit 4 guys on the same level as Nolan McGinn.
Corning had the same thing going as St Anthony’s. Good pack but lack of a low stick. Or maybe bange didn’t have a great race or wanted to pace others. But that’s ok. It’s still early
looking forward to seeing speed ratings of St A and Corning!!!
Bange looked rough. Not sure what happened. The rest of their pack looked solid though. Also important to remember it was 80 degrees for Corning’s race. He might not separate the races for speed ratings because it’s so early, but those late races are definitely going to be underrated because of the heat.
slow course. hot day. course is possibly a little long as well. course record is 15:34, so 15:4x is pretty quick for a day like this, early season.
i don't trust gps in the woods, but my watch measured 3.15. probably off due to a lot of twists and turns on the course.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if this year whoever gets second at NXR will get last at NXN. I doubt Corning will do any good.
heartland is down there too like always. And Wayzata’s first race showed how overrated they were.
speaking of next year, uh, I would think burnt hills will be good and will maybe do ok at NXN (cause they seem to be well - coached) but they will need a #5. Saratoga might make it next year to NXN but they won’t do much damage
But McGinn could maybe challenge for top 10 in the country next year
Sad year wrote:
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if this year whoever gets second at NXR will get last at NXN. I doubt Corning will do any good.
heartland is down there too like always. And Wayzata’s first race showed how overrated they were.speaking of next year, uh, I would think burnt hills will be good and will maybe do ok at NXN (cause they seem to be well - coached) but they will need a #5. Saratoga might make it next year to NXN but they won’t do much damage
The whole state is down. Way down. Look at the results from Sunken Meadow today... all of two guys better than a 160 SR.
At VVS, it isn't just that FM's guys got 5th in the merge, or whatever... outside of Corning, they were beaten handily by teams that really aren't that strong, compared to typical years in NY.
So the milesplit crew was previewing the PTXC 13 last week. They might actually be talking about St Anthony’s next week because that was the best team at that meet.
At this point it will take a lot of work for any New York team to beat Corning or St Anthony’s
Speed-ratings are posted for VVS. Outside of McGinn, very underwhelming for both boys and girls. But a hot day, and only one race. Lots of season left.