These people are being treated as if they are sub human and many of you folks are showing your true colors. You folks know who you are and you are complete failures as people to be treating these people this way.
Your outrage is misplaced. Your virtue signaling should be held for cis-gendered female athletes who are not competing on a level playing field. Who will speak up for them? You?
Virtue signaling? Please stop with your nonsensical jargon. You hear a phrase you like and you parrot it endlessly like the empty headed person you are. The cis-gendered are not the ones being mocked endlessly by the cognitively challenged folks here.
These people are being treated as if they are sub human and many of you folks are showing your true colors. You folks know who you are and you are complete failures as people to be treating these people this way.
Your outrage is misplaced. Your virtue signaling should be held for cis-gendered female athletes who are not competing on a level playing field. Who will speak up for them? You?
Their last few posts were pure drivel, and baiting, revealing nothing more than trolling.
These people are being treated as if they are sub human and many of you folks are showing your true colors. You folks know who you are and you are complete failures as people to be treating these people this way.
No, they are not being "treated as they are sub human." They are being treated as human beings born with disorders of male sex development who are taking advantage of their rare, male-only medical conditions to compete in the wrong sex category - where they can easily trounce female athletes who are being denied a fair shot from the get-go...."
Brilliantly said. I'm telling you now I'm going to use some of this verbatim.
No, they are not being "treated as they are sub human." They are being treated as human beings born with disorders of male sex development who are taking advantage of their rare, male-only medical conditions to compete in the wrong sex category - where they can easily trounce female athletes who are being denied a fair shot from the get-go...."
Brilliantly said. I'm telling you now I'm going to use some of this verbatim.
It is NOT brilliantly said. It is mere pablum offered up to camouflage the bias you both share. Learn to think for yourself.
Your outrage is misplaced. Your virtue signaling should be held for cis-gendered female athletes who are not competing on a level playing field. Who will speak up for them? You?
Their last few posts were pure drivel, and baiting, revealing nothing more than trolling.
They need to have equity across distances and extend the ban from 400m - mile to 0m - ultra. It's the only fair way. If I discovered I was intersex I would not line up on the start line and compete. When you read about it and testosterone you can see why it's totally unfair. It's the levels of testosterone.
They need to have equity across distances and extend the ban from 400m - mile to 0m - ultra. It's the only fair way. If I discovered I was intersex I would not line up on the start line and compete. When you read about it and testosterone you can see why it's totally unfair. It's the levels of testosterone.
It's not the levels of testosterone that makes the difference. Young boys who are very fast don't have lots of testosterone. It's a genetic trait.
Thank you for continuing to bring the facts re the DSD regulations and the athletes they pertain to. It's quite shocking how a couple of posters on here are so triggered by the truth and respond viciously to your posts.
As an aside, I noticed that last year's 1:56 woman Workwua (Workwuha?) Getachew, is now competing in the 3000m steeplechase. Following her breakout performance, she was projected to be a gold medal threat in the 800m at last year's Olympics but did not run.
I recall you already know the Hima Das 'injury' which somehow prevents her from running her per event (400m)
I'm surprised no one / Letsrun remarked on Getachew's performance in the steeple, if nothing else, it would certainly be an amazing range!
LRC Note. We changed the title of the thread. It was initially entitled, "Just catching up. A man wins womens 200m in Ostrava . (Video)" As a courtesy, please do not call an intersex woman a man. You can make the argument that in your mind they are more biologically male than female."
DSD athletes could possibly be threat in every T&F event, so Felix being in the same race doesn’t mean she has to be a spokesperson on the issue. The IAAF doesn’t care what she thinks anyway so she there is no reason for her to wade into such a divisive issue.
They need to have equity across distances and extend the ban from 400m - mile to 0m - ultra. It's the only fair way. If I discovered I was intersex I would not line up on the start line and compete. When you read about it and testosterone you can see why it's totally unfair. It's the levels of testosterone.
It's not the levels of testosterone that makes the difference. Young boys who are very fast don't have lots of testosterone. It's a genetic trait.
The sport needs an intersex category.
It's mainly the hormones plus biological differences like size. What factor do you think is bigger than testosterone? Young boys and girls around 10 and 11 often don't have much of a difference between them in terms of sport. You can see it easily visually in things like rounders in PE. When male puberty kicks in the difference is vast. Testosterone makes a massive difference to women as well in terms of performance. Normal levels are about
women - 15-70 (ng/dl)
men - 265-923
These are rough figures but I just put them in to emphasise the difference, which is vast.
7–10 years old male - 1.80 to 5.68 female - 2.69 to 10.29
13–17 years old male - 208.08 to 496.58 female - 16.72 to 31.55
Of course there are other factors, but in adult humans, the ban (for those distances) refers to testosterone and reducing levels of testosterone.
LRC Note. We changed the title of the thread. It was initially entitled, "Just catching up. A man wins womens 200m in Ostrava . (Video)" As a courtesy, please do not call an intersex woman a man. You can make the argument that in your mind they are more biologically male than female."
DSD athletes could possibly be threat in every T&F event, so Felix being in the same race doesn’t mean she has to be a spokesperson on the issue. The IAAF doesn’t care what she thinks anyway so she there is no reason for her to wade into such a divisive issue.
She carries a lot of weight.
If she sees this as injustice, her speaking out could help