Also, this is just ridiculous. You're putting content online, pretty ridiculous content, and begging to not be ridiculed for it. Not just begging. Demanding. This is like, bordering on the Streisand effect. An insane lack of self awareness from both you and Shelby.
I knew this would inevitably make its way on here so I would like to say a few things.
1) You may disagree or not believe in Shelby, but I sincerely ask you to listen to this episode. You will benefit greatly from hearing Shelby’s vulnerability, heart, and openness in sharing her story. We could be here endlessly debating all the different facts of the case, evidence on both sides, and much more. But that’s not what we’re here to do. All we’re here to do is give Shelby an opportunity to share her heart, give her side of the story in full, and give her the opportunity to answer every misconception about the situation.
2) Shelby has never spoken publicly in a long-form manner since her ban. She speaks on many news things that aren't publically known and addresses all of the misconceptions that you all wrongly speculate on here all the time.
3) Please listen to this with an open mind and not your predisposed mindset. If you want to speak on the podcast AFTER you listen to it, that's fine, but don't assume to know what she said without listening to it. 4) Lastly, Shelby and I both deserve respect. Whether you agree with Shelby or not, these are very sensitive and life-altering subjects. I demand that you show the utmost respect in any comment sections about this episode whether you agree with her or not. Every human being has dignity and should be treated with such.
I hope you will all give Shelby a chance. If you would like more info you can go to
Respect is a two-way street. When she respects that fans enough to tell the truth, I'll respect her for telling her story. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
I knew this would inevitably make its way on here so I would like to say a few things.
1) You may disagree or not believe in Shelby, but I sincerely ask you to listen to this episode. You will benefit greatly from hearing Shelby’s vulnerability, heart, and openness in sharing her story. We could be here endlessly debating all the different facts of the case, evidence on both sides, and much more. But that’s not what we’re here to do. All we’re here to do is give Shelby an opportunity to share her heart, give her side of the story in full, and give her the opportunity to answer every misconception about the situation.
2) Shelby has never spoken publicly in a long-form manner since her ban. She speaks on many news things that aren't publically known and addresses all of the misconceptions that you all wrongly speculate on here all the time.
3) Please listen to this with an open mind and not your predisposed mindset. If you want to speak on the podcast AFTER you listen to it, that's fine, but don't assume to know what she said without listening to it. 4) Lastly, Shelby and I both deserve respect. Whether you agree with Shelby or not, these are very sensitive and life-altering subjects. I demand that you show the utmost respect in any comment sections about this episode whether you agree with her or not. Every human being has dignity and should be treated with such.
I hope you will all give Shelby a chance. If you would like more info you can go to
My question is why we should give Shelby and chance to open up now when she and her team have been opaque and borderline dishonest from the start about the whole situation a year and a half ago? From the get-go, they fed us some misleading BS that omitted key data, went scorched earth on doping authorities, then went silent (ESPECIALLY Jerry and Shalane) and wouldn't respond to legit any questions about the situation once everything came to light. And even now, their lack of transparency around her training situation (at the expense of her own teammates!) makes it even more aggravating for us fans. She and her coaches have spent any goodwill they may have been entitled to.
Unless I've missed some other interviews, she and her coaches are only answering questions from those who will present "her side" in an sympathetic manner, which sounds like this is the case. And to be fair, she has had many, many chances, and even in front of courts and arbitrators, and they all thought it was BS. Until any of them are willing discusses the manner that directly addresses and confronts the BS from her and her coaches, the time to give her any benefit of the doubt has come and gone.
They only reason she has gotten so much leniency is because of who she is. Her case is no different then any of the other guilty dopers before her, yet she and her coaches have received so much undeserved and hypocritical slack from many (especially the owners of a particular running site) that genuinely makes me feel down about the community.
Her recent instagram post was brutal to read. She claims to have sympathy for antidoping efforts and clean athletes but entirely fails to acknowledge why she was held strictly liable for failing a drug test. All of this talk of the AIU not caring about the "truth" and being out to get her... how are remote and global testing networks supposed to uncover the "truth" of every doping violation. It's a violation. She had a substance in her body she was not allowed to have in it. Imagine the investigations and justifications that would go on if the AIU had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, or on preponderance of evidence that an athlete intentionally ingested a banned supplement. This is the only way the system works and she is taking it to the point where she wants to say that the whole system is corrupt because it caught her??? She has zero interest in a clean sport and has shown no effort to understand the system that caught her, nor does she even pretend to care about other athletes. All of her language is about how unfair the system was to her and how it could happen to other athletes. Well, let me know when it does happen to another athlete in this way. It NEVER does, and, when it's close, athletes like Ajee Wilson are able to show evidence as to why they failed their test. Shelby, on the other hand, sent a bunch of meat and supplements off to a testing lab and spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to weasel her way out of a failed test without EVER TAKING ANY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO THE FAILURE. I never thought I would reach this point but she's starting to seem sociopathic. Yes, the interviewers at Citius are complete morons who will believe anything you say, but the general public is not so stupid. Stop talking about your "good character" when all anyone out there knows about you is that you smile a lot after winning races and failed a drug test.
Respect is a two-way street. When she respects that fans enough to tell the truth, I'll respect her for telling her story. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
Agree. I find it quite insulting how Shelby blames ignorant fans who only read media headlines and don't know the facts of the case are the ones who think she is guilty. Literally the details of the case are what make it impossible to believe her.
Also, the podcaster comes on here asking everyone to keep an open mind and not to form an opinion but rather focus on the facts. Yet posts with a #justiceforshelby hashtag on social media.
I demand that you show the utmost respect in any comment sections about this episode whether you agree with her or not.
Also, this is just ridiculous. You're putting content online, pretty ridiculous content, and begging to not be ridiculed for it. Not just begging. Demanding. This is like, bordering on the Streisand effect. An insane lack of self awareness from both you and Shelby.
I agree. That #4 killed the whole message and showed whoever that was is ****Deleted as it's an unnecessary personal attack on a teenager**. S/he doesn't even say who s/he is.
Just interested to know if long after her career is over she will finally tell the truth.
I was thinking the same thing, especially when she talks about her 70 clean tests. Of course they are clean, they're supposed to be clean, that's how it works. Now she's talking about how hard her workouts are. I remember Armstrong saying something like "what am I on? I'm on the bike, every single day". No one is denying she worked hard. She talks about her character, which was the cornerstone argument for Armstrong's supporters. "he wouldn't dope, he started livestrong".
I really want to believe her, but the burrito theory is ludicrous. All I hear from this interview is "if you don't agree, you don't understand the facts". That belittling to running fans. We absolutely know what we are talking about, the argument is flimsy at best. If she comes up with something better, I'm all ears.