Was this in fact a ‘full mile’ race? Or 1600 meters being just called “Boys One Mile Run” - Just say’in because often they do that. PIAA competition is run at 1600 meters, not a full English mile true? If this is the case then you’ve got to add another 9 meters and adjust the time to around 3:58 high or 3:59 low!
Uesere, time will tell and actual is always better than projected. Today, however, the actually great Gary Martin just ran the fastest time ever run in a high school only mile race. That’s probably about million races since Ryun’s previous high school only best. Wow!
But still no comparison. Jim Ryun ran 3:58.3 on a dirt track in crap shoes over half a century ago. Kudos to Martin however.
Haven’t found the entire race video yet but here’s the finish
AMAZING feat by @ArchbishopWood's Gary Martin who ran a sub 4-minute mile today at the Philadelphia Catholic League Outdoor Championships. He ran it in 3:57:98! Martin becomes just the 14th American high school athlete to break 4 minutes, and is now 3rd all time outdoors! WOW!!! pic.twitter.com/hC2DCgKsX1
Was this in fact a ‘full mile’ race? Or 1600 meters being just called “Boys One Mile Run” - Just say’in because often they do that. PIAA competition is run at 1600 meters, not a full English mile true? If this is the case then you’ve got to add another 9 meters and adjust the time to around 3:58 high or 3:59 low!
Philadelphia Catholic League Championship is always a Mile. 5 pages in and you are still asking if it was a full mile.
He’s going to NB Outdoors (which is close to home so I get it). I guess the hope is that Brooks PR can snag him and Sahlman which is several days before NB and Nike (where people are suggesting Sahlman may be running the 8?).
Was at the race. Confirming no pacers. It was an off and on rainy, muggy day (and no wind) in Springfield, PA and Gary just grabbed the race by the balls and finally got his sub-4:00.
Also confirming that he is a polite, super nice kid. The world could use more Gary Martins.
Did any of you geniuses take a video of the entire race?
I thought he would stay local, I am not big on set ups in these National Meets, but, maybe they could get someone who could go thru in 1:57.5 or so for yards..It is really hard to get a HS guy who can run that evenly and do it right. You probably have to be a 1:52/3 guy to be able to do that without f'ing it up?
However...there is NO comparison between his performance and Ryun's 3:58.3. Ryun's mark was set on a CINDER TRACK, in the famous KANSAS WINDS with 1965 shoe "technology". Ryun would've run 3:51 or better under the same situation as young Mr. Gary in HS by himself.
In the span of five months, Gary Martin went from that guy she told me not to worry about to social media official with a baby on the way, so to speak.
However...there is NO comparison between his performance and Ryun's 3:58.3. Ryun's mark was set on a CINDER TRACK, in the famous KANSAS WINDS with 1965 shoe "technology". Ryun would've run 3:51 or better under the same situation as young Mr. Gary in HS by himself.
Point noted, but keep in mind this was part of his routine meet day of 3:57 / 1:50 /49 and he did it at the Catholic schools league meet. No tumbleweed just broken glass and drive-by shootings on 'the streets of Philadelphia'. Martin is old school, only love and respect for Congressman Ryun.
Stop with the exxagerations of what he actually ran, many have done this already.
He did not run 3:57
he ran 3:57.98 or a snap of the fingers from 3:58.0 much closer to that than the 3:57 referenced tons of times already, he did not run 1:50 either, he ran 1:51.29
Is is that hard to list the correct times, especially when comparing marks from recent and yesteryear?
Stop with the exxagerations of what he actually ran, many have done this already.
He did not run 3:57
he ran 3:57.98 or a snap of the fingers from 3:58.0 much closer to that than the 3:57 referenced tons of times already, he did not run 1:50 either, he ran 1:51.29
Is is that hard to list the correct times, especially when comparing marks from recent and yesteryear?
When did it become fashionable to drop of the decimal parts of the times? In the old days if someone ran 3:59.4 it was always read back as 3:59.4. Nowadays it's 3:59. David Rudisha ran 1:40.91 for 800 meters. Why not say he ran 1:40? It's obvious why. It ain't the same.
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When did it become fashionable to drop of the decimal parts of the times? In the old days if someone ran 3:59.4 it was always read back as 3:59.4. Nowadays it's 3:59. David Rudisha ran 1:40.91 for 800 meters. Why not say he ran 1:40? It's obvious why. It ain't the same.
I could not agree more. So true, and after a while , and it is a frigging while on these boards, it is annoying, especially when the mark run is closer to the next highest full second, not the lower number used. Which is almost every time on here. In a sport measured down to the hundreths a lot....dropping the .98 here is deceiving
Most will say.."What is the big deal."
Well, just in this event alone..there are two other Hs'ers who ran faster 3:57.xx's...just indoors, one with pacing help, in fact I think both were not in HS only races. This mark is clearly closer to 3:58.o which is obvious and in the old days would have been rounded up to that in any record keeping effort, right?
Stop with the exxagerations of what he actually ran, many have done this already.
He did not run 3:57
he ran 3:57.98 or a snap of the fingers from 3:58.0 much closer to that than the 3:57 referenced tons of times already, he did not run 1:50 either, he ran 1:51.29
Is is that hard to list the correct times, especially when comparing marks from recent and yesteryear?
When did it become fashionable to drop of the decimal parts of the times? In the old days if someone ran 3:59.4 it was always read back as 3:59.4. Nowadays it's 3:59. David Rudisha ran 1:40.91 for 800 meters. Why not say he ran 1:40? It's obvious why. It ain't the same.
Well, that's obviously a newfangled habit to say time in minutes, seconds, and tenths anyway. When Roger Bannister ran 3:59.4, it was read out as three minutes, ..., and then no one ever heard anything else.