I would have been much more concerned if Covid-19 had been killing children, but quite the opposite happened. Covid-19 was and is less dangerous to children than the typical seasonal flu. Thankfully, when it comes to injecting mRNA concoctions into the bodies of kids, there are voices of reason out there like the head physician for the State of Florida.
Covid-19 was not and is not the plague of the 14th Century.
Get over it.
DanM....why are you cowardly avoiding my simple question?
Seems like your stance is not very well thought out. Will you avoid this simple question yet again, proving your stance is ridiculous and not even you are willing to stand by it?
How many millions of deaths would have been enough for COVID to be something for us to be concerned about?
Can you admit that nearly all the people who died of Covid were very sick before Covid?
Legal watchdog Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit Thursday against the Department of Health and Human Services after the department did not provide requested information and communications about COVID-19 vaccine side effects.
The lawsuit comes after the Food and Drug Administration was unresponsive to Judicial Watch's Aug. 30, 2021 FOIA request that asked for all emails "sent to and from members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee regarding adverse events, deaths and/or injuries caused by investigatory vaccines for the prevention or treatment of SARS-CoV-2 and/or COVID-19 currently produced by Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and/or Johnson & Johnson."
The FDA never got back to the group with the requested records by the Oct. 18, 2021 deadline, according to the lawsuit filed Thursday.
DanM....why are you cowardly avoiding my simple question?
Seems like your stance is not very well thought out. Will you avoid this simple question yet again, proving your stance is ridiculous and not even you are willing to stand by it?
How many millions of deaths would have been enough for COVID to be something for us to be concerned about?
Can you admit that nearly all the people who died of Covid were very sick before Covid?
So you're saying that nearly all the people who died of Covid would have died by now anyway? You do realize that thats verifiably false, right?
The question needs to be measured against the age groups affected by the outbreak. We can be thankful that Covid-19 was most devastating for the over age 80 population while Covid-19 had practically no effect on children. The typical seasonal flu is more dangerous than Covid-19 for the under 18 age group.
DanM....why are you cowardly avoiding my simple question? Seems like your stance is not very well thought out. Will you avoid this simple question yet again, proving your stance is ridiculous and not even you are willing to stand by it?
How many millions of deaths would have been enough for COVID to be something for us to be concerned about?
bump for the coward DanM.
Spews lots of nonsense then is too scared to stand by his own nonsense. Why are you always running away from your own BS?
It's a very simple question and based on your own posts.
How many millions of deaths would have been enough for COVID to be something for us to be concerned about?
Can you admit that nearly all the people who died of Covid were very sick before Covid?
So you're saying that nearly all the people who died of Covid would have died by now anyway? You do realize that thats verifiably false, right?
Of course. How is that verifiably false? 94% with at least 2 other life threatening conditions. 75% with 4 or more. Median and average age at death over 80. Nearly 1/2 the deaths took place in nursing homes -- where the media life expectancy is five months.
I am not saying that lots of people died due to not being given access to treatment and to the use of ventilators and remdesivir and the CDC's advice to stay home after you test positive for Covid until you are so sick that you have to go to the hospital. Plenty did die -- but I would argue this is due to this medical malpractice as much as Covid.
And clearly the majority of people who suffered Covid deaths would be gone by now.
DanM....why are you cowardly avoiding my simple question? Seems like your stance is not very well thought out. Will you avoid this simple question yet again, proving your stance is ridiculous and not even you are willing to stand by it?
How many millions of deaths would have been enough for COVID to be something for us to be concerned about?
bump for the coward DanM.
Spews lots of nonsense then is too scared to stand by his own nonsense. Why are you always running away from your own BS?
It's a very simple question and based on your own posts.
How many millions of deaths would have been enough for COVID to be something for us to be concerned about?
Well.
More than 30 million people starve each year and the media and the oligarchs and the pols don't care about that.
Something that could be easily solved. But it would cost the economic elites $$ instead of making then far richer like the Covid response did.
So you're saying that nearly all the people who died of Covid would have died by now anyway? You do realize that thats verifiably false, right?
Of course. How is that verifiably false? 94% with at least 2 other life threatening conditions. 75% with 4 or more. Median and average age at death over 80. Nearly 1/2 the deaths took place in nursing homes -- where the media life expectancy is five months.
I am not saying that lots of people died due to not being given access to treatment and to the use of ventilators and remdesivir and the CDC's advice to stay home after you test positive for Covid until you are so sick that you have to go to the hospital. Plenty did die -- but I would argue this is due to this medical malpractice as much as Covid.
And clearly the majority of people who suffered Covid deaths would be gone by now.
"And clearly the majority of people who suffered Covid deaths would be gone by now."
ok....if this is shown to be wrong will you change your mind? Or are you so set in your ways that you are facts immune?
Of course. How is that verifiably false? 94% with at least 2 other life threatening conditions. 75% with 4 or more. Median and average age at death over 80. Nearly 1/2 the deaths took place in nursing homes -- where the media life expectancy is five months.
I am not saying that lots of people died due to not being given access to treatment and to the use of ventilators and remdesivir and the CDC's advice to stay home after you test positive for Covid until you are so sick that you have to go to the hospital. Plenty did die -- but I would argue this is due to this medical malpractice as much as Covid.
And clearly the majority of people who suffered Covid deaths would be gone by now.
"And clearly the majority of people who suffered Covid deaths would be gone by now."
ok....if this is shown to be wrong will you change your mind? Or are you so set in your ways that you are facts immune?
The increased incidence of non-Covid deaths is the real tragedy of the so-called pandemic. Think of all the diverted and wasted medical resources devoted to Covid after Fauci and Collins engineered, in their words, "a devastating take down" of the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.
Death-benefit claims not tied directly to Covid-19 rose last year, and insurance executives think the deferral of medical treatment during the pandemic was a contributing factor.
U.S. life insurers, as expected, made a large number of Covid-19 death-benefit payouts last year. More surprisingly, many saw a jump in other death claims, too.
Industry executives and actuaries believe many of these other fatalities are tied to delays in medical care as a result of lockdowns in 2020, and then, later, people’s fears of seeking out treatment and trouble lining up appointments.
“The losses we are seeing continue to be elevated over 2019 levels due at least in part, we believe, to the pandemic and the existence of either delayed or unavailable healthcare," Globe Life finance chief Frank Svoboda told analysts and investors earlier this month.
Among the non-coronavirus-specific claims are deaths from heart and circulatory issues and neurological disorders, he said. “We anticipate that they’ll start to be less impactful over the course of 2022 but we do anticipate that we’ll still at least see some elevated levels throughout the year," he said.
"And clearly the majority of people who suffered Covid deaths would be gone by now."
ok....if this is shown to be wrong will you change your mind? Or are you so set in your ways that you are facts immune?
How can you possibly show this to be wrong?
Have at it?
Total deaths in the US jumped by almost a million since Covid started. If it was just people dying who would have died anyway, we wouldn't have seen a rise in deaths since it was just the same people dying for different reasons. The total number would have been the same.
And please save yourself the time of trying to blame lockdown deaths unless you have the numbers to back it it up. Drug overdoses, murders, suicides.......combined their increases are only a tiny fraction of that number.
So there you go. Today is the day you discovered that Covid actually killed people. Finally.
The increased incidence of non-Covid deaths is the real tragedy of the so-called pandemic. Think of all the diverted and wasted medical resources devoted to Covid after Fauci and Collins engineered, in their words, "a devastating take down" of the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.
U.S. life insurers, as expected, made a large number of Covid-19 death-benefit payouts last year. More surprisingly, many saw a jump in other death claims, too.
Industry executives and actuaries believe many of these other fatalities are tied to delays in medical care as a result of lockdowns in 2020, and then, later, people’s fears of seeking out treatment and trouble lining up appointments.
“The losses we are seeing continue to be elevated over 2019 levels due at least in part, we believe, to the pandemic and the existence of either delayed or unavailable healthcare," Globe Life finance chief Frank Svoboda told analysts and investors earlier this month.
Among the non-coronavirus-specific claims are deaths from heart and circulatory issues and neurological disorders, he said. “We anticipate that they’ll start to be less impactful over the course of 2022 but we do anticipate that we’ll still at least see some elevated levels throughout the year," he said.
"He cited scientific research indicating that the virus may pave the way for future medical complications, so survivors may “later die from the toll Covid has taken on their bodies.”
Maybe read the article all the way through next time.
The paper shows 12k extra deaths in 2020 from alcohol. I agree that letting a pandemic run rampant over the country was not great for the economy, mental health, or many other things. Good thing we got the vaccine as quickly as we did – thanks Trump!
Total deaths in the US jumped by almost a million since Covid started. If it was just people dying who would have died anyway, we wouldn't have seen a rise in deaths since it was just the same people dying for different reasons. The total number would have been the same.
And please save yourself the time of trying to blame lockdown deaths unless you have the numbers to back it it up. Drug overdoses, murders, suicides.......combined their increases are only a tiny fraction of that number.
So there you go. Today is the day you discovered that Covid actually killed people. Finally.
How do you know that lockdown related deaths are tiny?
"March 14, 2022: An adjustment was made to COVID Data Tracker’s mortality data involving the removal of 72,277 deaths previously reported across 26 states. An error in CDC's algorithm led to misclassifying deaths that were not COVID-19 related. The algorithm has since been corrected."
Isn't the algorithm just 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ... i.e. count the number of COVID deaths? I didn't know the death count was determined by an "algorithm."
If you only read your own post, you would have seen that the algorithm is the logic that decides if the death is COVID-19 related. You can't begin to count the number of COVID deaths until you decide that a death is a COVID death.
Total deaths in the US jumped by almost a million since Covid started. If it was just people dying who would have died anyway, we wouldn't have seen a rise in deaths since it was just the same people dying for different reasons. The total number would have been the same.
And please save yourself the time of trying to blame lockdown deaths unless you have the numbers to back it it up. Drug overdoses, murders, suicides.......combined their increases are only a tiny fraction of that number.
So there you go. Today is the day you discovered that Covid actually killed people. Finally.
How do you know that lockdown related deaths are tiny?
Because all numbers indicate they are. How else do you make you conclusions?
It's pretty easy looking at the stats to see increases of a few thousand here and there isn't going to add up to a million. Always amazed me how people thought overdoses, suicides and murders increases add up to explain a million deaths when the total number of deaths from those only numbers in the ten thousands.
Murders up 50%? thats still only a few thousand extra deaths
Suicides go up 10%? that's only 4,000 extra deaths. (they actually went down).
Overdoses sky rocketed? ..... by 20,000 a year.
Leaves you a loooooooooong way from a million.
It's like you're trying to convince people a few dimes stacked up adds up to $100.
There's a world of difference between 10,000 and 1,000,000
Also......deaths went up and down with COVID numbers.....but not anything else. So if you're going to convince people it wasn't Covid you have miles and miles to go. So far you have nothing.
Tons of evidence supporting that it was Covid, little to nothing supporting anything else as the main factor.
Curious....now that's winding down and there is a mountain of overwhelming evidence that you are wrong, why do you still have faith in your initial beliefs? Too stubborn to change them?
How do you know that lockdown related deaths are tiny?
Because all numbers indicate they are. How else do you make you conclusions?
It's pretty easy looking at the stats to see increases of a few thousand here and there isn't going to add up to a million. Always amazed me how people thought overdoses, suicides and murders increases add up to explain a million deaths when the total number of deaths from those only numbers in the ten thousands.
Murders up 50%? thats still only a few thousand extra deaths
Suicides go up 10%? that's only 4,000 extra deaths. (they actually went down).
Overdoses sky rocketed? ..... by 20,000 a year.
Leaves you a loooooooooong way from a million.
It's like you're trying to convince people a few dimes stacked up adds up to $100.
There's a world of difference between 10,000 and 1,000,000
Also......deaths went up and down with COVID numbers.....but not anything else. So if you're going to convince people it wasn't Covid you have miles and miles to go. So far you have nothing.
Tons of evidence supporting that it was Covid, little to nothing supporting anything else as the main factor.
Curious....now that's winding down and there is a mountain of overwhelming evidence that you are wrong, why do you still have faith in your initial beliefs? Too stubborn to change them?
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When state public health officials publish Monday’s report about the latest COVID-19 impacts on Massachusetts, the cumulative death toll through two years of the pandemic will suddenly stand about 15% lower. The Baker adminis...
Because all numbers indicate they are. How else do you make you conclusions?
It's pretty easy looking at the stats to see increases of a few thousand here and there isn't going to add up to a million. Always amazed me how people thought overdoses, suicides and murders increases add up to explain a million deaths when the total number of deaths from those only numbers in the ten thousands.
Murders up 50%? thats still only a few thousand extra deaths
Suicides go up 10%? that's only 4,000 extra deaths. (they actually went down).
Overdoses sky rocketed? ..... by 20,000 a year.
Leaves you a loooooooooong way from a million.
It's like you're trying to convince people a few dimes stacked up adds up to $100.
There's a world of difference between 10,000 and 1,000,000
Also......deaths went up and down with COVID numbers.....but not anything else. So if you're going to convince people it wasn't Covid you have miles and miles to go. So far you have nothing.
Tons of evidence supporting that it was Covid, little to nothing supporting anything else as the main factor.
Curious....now that's winding down and there is a mountain of overwhelming evidence that you are wrong, why do you still have faith in your initial beliefs? Too stubborn to change them?
significant [ sig-nif-i-kuhnt ]
adjective
(1) important and deserving of attention; of consequence (2) relatively large in amount or quantity (3) having or expressing a meaning; indicative (4) having a special, secret, or disguised meaning; suggestive (5) Statistics. of or relating to observations that are unlikely to occur by chance and that therefore indicate a systematic cause
DanM.....so you still don't know how excess deaths work?
Also....how many deaths would be enough to worry about? You've indicated a million isn't enough. So what's your number? How many Americans would have to die before you thought it was enough to worry about. You've ducked and dodged that question every time.
It's almost like you know you are wrong and your stance is indefensible so you avoid...avoid...avoid.
