They were hitting dormitories in Kiev with missiles a few days into the war.
You are correct. RU has been targeting residential neighborhoods for most of the war so this does not seem to be a new level of desperation.
Waiting for you to condemn this strategy.
Would be nice.
I've never said it was a good thing. Lack of condemnation isn't approval.
You can't declare Russia's military to be the most incompetent military of all time and simultaneously expect every Russian missile to hit it's intended target.
You are correct. RU has been targeting residential neighborhoods for most of the war so this does not seem to be a new level of desperation.
Waiting for you to condemn this strategy.
Would be nice.
I've never said it was a good thing. Lack of condemnation isn't approval.
You can't declare Russia's military to be the most incompetent military of all time and simultaneously expect every Russian missile to hit it's intended target.
Put simply, you can't condemn an invading power targeting residential blocks with missiles because the attackers are right wing and on team 'conservative.'
And to believe that RU targeting errors are the problem and RU is not deliberately hitting apartment buildings is...is...eye roll naive. Putin would smirk.
"virtually no one expects Ukraine's military to withstand a full Russian onslaught"
"While the Rand report hypothesized a theoretical Russian advance to the east bank of the Dnieper River near Dnipro in a matter of days, other reports have suggested a Russian invasion would be so overwhelming that the capital, Kyiv, would be overrun in a matter of hours if Russia set that as an objective."
"virtually no one expects Ukraine's military to withstand a full Russian onslaught"
"While the Rand report hypothesized a theoretical Russian advance to the east bank of the Dnieper River near Dnipro in a matter of days, other reports have suggested a Russian invasion would be so overwhelming that the capital, Kyiv, would be overrun in a matter of hours if Russia set that as an objective."
You're confusing hindsight for forethought.
That's cool,you admitted you lied as usual.cheers
You ascribing meanings I didn't intend isn't me lying it's you ascribing meanings I didn't intend.
You're wrong. Just take the L and get back to pornhub.
Rumors of Bakhmut's demise have been greatly exaggerated. A month ago, RU was claiming that it was close to encircling Bakhmut and many were questioning why UA was still trying to defend the city. Now, RU is stuck in Bakhmut, unable to cross the river from the east and getting pummeled every time they try to advance from the north. And all the time that it has taken for RU to capture a few kms into Bakhmut has allowed UA to prepare defensive lines to the north and west of Bakhmut, meaning any capture of the city will just mean even more huge losses if RU tries to advance on from Bakhmut. RU's campaign in Bakhmut may go down as one of the worst in modern military history.
Now, the big question is whether RU will be able to launch any new offensives this spring or whether UA will be able to repeat the success of its fall offensive in its planned spring offensive. RU is launching missile strikes on Ukrainian residential apartment buildings and even a school dormitory. This seems to indicate a new level of desperation for Russia. I have a feeling that by the beginning of summer, there will be a new reality on the battlefield that will not be good for Russia.
Urban combat is always very bloody. Only people who know nothing about war or military history think what's going on in Bakhmut is somehow unparalleled in military history.
Ukraine's "fall offensive" was successful because Russia didn't contest it.
Bakhmut is very similar to the siege of Grozny during the Chechen war. RU was able to clear out Grozny in a bit over a month of intense fighting. The Chechen rebels were well coordinated and had excellent defensive positions in the city. RU used massive artillery fire and air support to wear down Chechen positions that were then attacked by small groups of infantry.
RU has used the same playbook in Bakhmut, except that RU does not have unified command due to the split between Wanger and MOD forces. UA is better armed, but the Chechen rebels had a lot of Jihadis from other countries who had combat experience and were willing to do suicide missions. Clearly, the RU armed forces of today pale in comparison to what RU was able to do in Chechnya 20+ years ago.
Urban combat is always very bloody. Only people who know nothing about war or military history think what's going on in Bakhmut is somehow unparalleled in military history.
Ukraine's "fall offensive" was successful because Russia didn't contest it.
Bakhmut is very similar to the siege of Grozny during the Chechen war. RU was able to clear out Grozny in a bit over a month of intense fighting. The Chechen rebels were well coordinated and had excellent defensive positions in the city. RU used massive artillery fire and air support to wear down Chechen positions that were then attacked by small groups of infantry.
RU has used the same playbook in Bakhmut, except that RU does not have unified command due to the split between Wanger and MOD forces. UA is better armed, but the Chechen rebels had a lot of Jihadis from other countries who had combat experience and were willing to do suicide missions. Clearly, the RU armed forces of today pale in comparison to what RU was able to do in Chechnya 20+ years ago.
There were about 3,000 Chechen fighters in Grozny. Hardly comparable to Bakhmut where there's over 30,000 defenders.
Urban combat is always very bloody. Only people who know nothing about war or military history think what's going on in Bakhmut is somehow unparalleled in military history.
Ukraine's "fall offensive" was successful because Russia didn't contest it.
Bakhmut is very similar to the siege of Grozny during the Chechen war. RU was able to clear out Grozny in a bit over a month of intense fighting. The Chechen rebels were well coordinated and had excellent defensive positions in the city. RU used massive artillery fire and air support to wear down Chechen positions that were then attacked by small groups of infantry.
RU has used the same playbook in Bakhmut, except that RU does not have unified command due to the split between Wanger and MOD forces. UA is better armed, but the Chechen rebels had a lot of Jihadis from other countries who had combat experience and were willing to do suicide missions. Clearly, the RU armed forces of today pale in comparison to what RU was able to do in Chechnya 20+ years ago.
I suspect the big difference was air war, right? RU does not have that advantage in Ukraine and is suffering for lack of it.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine took place, multiple congressional sources tell Fox News.
Most informed people didn't think Ukraine would fight.
If you read the RFE link that you posted, you'll see that this is wrong. Here are some quotes from the link you posted that run counter to the quotes you picked out:
"Russia will find them a determined, robust, and enduring army, whatever Putin chooses to do," said Glen Grant, a retired British Army artillery officer who served as an adviser to the Ukrainian military.
"There is little faith in the country that the president, as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and his administration, are as prepared, thoughtful, and robust as the army and population at large. Much will depend upon what sort of attack [Russian President Vladimir] Putin decides to follow. There is no appetite in the country for political surrender."
There were doubts about whether Ukraine could stop an invasion, not doubts that Ukraine would fight. Putin believed Ukraine would surrender, and he was disastrously wrong.
You keep looking for the big-picture view to prove you were right all along. But most strategic geniuses on TV are airbags who only know a few general principles. If you stop getting lost in the geopolitical overview and start looking at facts on the ground, you'll see that the people who know Ukraine best have been right a lot more than they've been wrong.
And try to develop some intellectual humility. You're wedded to your own opinion, but if you open your eyes you'll see that there have been surprises all along. People dismissed Zelensky as a lightweight, but he's been fearless. People thought the Russian army would be overpowering, but it's been repeatedly exposed at every level. You have this preconceived notion that Ukraine can't learn to use advanced weapons effectively, but we keep seeing this not be true.
No one knows how this is going to end. Not you, not me, not anybody. We try to make the most informed possible judgment, but there are too many unknowns.
I know two things. First, Russia's hopes for a quick victory disappeared a year ago. Nothing it has done since has suggested it has the capability to deliver the knockout blow it once hoped for.
Second, the aid given by the U.S. and Western nations to Ukraine will make a huge difference to the outcome: how many more civilians die, whether abducted children get returned, how much of the country will be subject to pillage and looting, whether Ukraine's borders will be viable.
I've made my choice about what I want to happen, and you've made yours. The only thing I can't understand is how you can look yourself in the mirror.
I don't really pay attention to Milley. Not a fan.
However I do have close friends in the US military who were previously deployed to Ukraine. They said a Russian invasion would be disastrous for Russia and they were correct. Nazi Putin's miscalculations are costing him much more than Milley's incorrect assessment.
Most informed people didn't think Ukraine would fight.
If you read the RFE link that you posted, you'll see that this is wrong. Here are some quotes from the link you posted that run counter to the quotes you picked out:
"Russia will find them a determined, robust, and enduring army, whatever Putin chooses to do," said Glen Grant, a retired British Army artillery officer who served as an adviser to the Ukrainian military.
"There is little faith in the country that the president, as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and his administration, are as prepared, thoughtful, and robust as the army and population at large. Much will depend upon what sort of attack [Russian President Vladimir] Putin decides to follow. There is no appetite in the country for political surrender."
There were doubts about whether Ukraine could stop an invasion, not doubts that Ukraine would fight. Putin believed Ukraine would surrender, and he was disastrously wrong.
You keep looking for the big-picture view to prove you were right all along. But most strategic geniuses on TV are airbags who only know a few general principles. If you stop getting lost in the geopolitical overview and start looking at facts on the ground, you'll see that the people who know Ukraine best have been right a lot more than they've been wrong.
And try to develop some intellectual humility. You're wedded to your own opinion, but if you open your eyes you'll see that there have been surprises all along. People dismissed Zelensky as a lightweight, but he's been fearless. People thought the Russian army would be overpowering, but it's been repeatedly exposed at every level. You have this preconceived notion that Ukraine can't learn to use advanced weapons effectively, but we keep seeing this not be true.
No one knows how this is going to end. Not you, not me, not anybody. We try to make the most informed possible judgment, but there are too many unknowns.
I know two things. First, Russia's hopes for a quick victory disappeared a year ago. Nothing it has done since has suggested it has the capability to deliver the knockout blow it once hoped for.
Second, the aid given by the U.S. and Western nations to Ukraine will make a huge difference to the outcome: how many more civilians die, whether abducted children get returned, how much of the country will be subject to pillage and looting, whether Ukraine's borders will be viable.
I've made my choice about what I want to happen, and you've made yours. The only thing I can't understand is how you can look yourself in the mirror.
You're being dishonest or you don't understand what you're reading.
"Russia will find them a determined, robust, and enduring army, whatever Putin chooses to do," said Glen Grant, a retired British Army artillery officer who served as an adviser to the Ukrainian military."
The Dutch were "robust and determined" in WW2 that doesn't mean anyone thought they would stop the Germans.
"There is little faith in the country that the president, as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and his administration, are as prepared, thoughtful, and robust as the army and population at large. Much will depend upon what sort of attack [Russian President Vladimir] Putin decides to follow. There is no appetite in the country for political surrender."
Yes, and the article said an all-out attack (Which Russia chose) would lead to a quick Russian victory.
There was "no appetite in the country for political surrender" in Holland during WW2. They did it it anyway because the appetite doesn't mean anything.
There were doubts about whether Ukraine could stop an invasion, not doubts that Ukraine would fight. Putin believed Ukraine would surrender, and he was disastrously wrong.
Yes, and the prevailing theory was that Ukraine would put up about as much of a fight as Georgia did in 2008. Putin was wrong. No one knew that before it happened.
You keep looking for the big-picture view to prove you were right all along. But most strategic geniuses on TV are airbags who only know a few general principles. If you stop getting lost in the geopolitical overview and start looking at facts on the ground, you'll see that the people who know Ukraine best have been right a lot more than they've been wrong.
Mark Milley was speaking for the US military which has the US intelligence system providing it information. While he may know as much as you claim to, he knows a lot.
And try to develop some intellectual humility. You're wedded to your own opinion, but if you open your eyes you'll see that there have been surprises all along.
LOL! I made a prediction based on the evidence I had and it turned out to be wrong. You claim you could see the future based on your extensive research that "Russia bad!" and think you're an expert. Everyone is wedded to their own opinion. That's why it's THEIR opinion. My opinion changes based on the facts. Your sticking with "RUSSA BAD!" and consuming nothing but western propaganda.
People dismissed Zelensky as a lightweight, but he's been fearless. People thought the Russian army would be overpowering, but it's been repeatedly exposed at every level. You have this preconceived notion that Ukraine can't learn to use advanced weapons effectively, but we keep seeing this not be true.
Zelensky is a comedian. People judged him based on his record. He has performed very well and no one saw it coming. His approval rating was in the toilet before the war.
Of course Ukraine can learn to use advanced weapons. But there's a big difference between an anti-air or anti-tank missile a child can learn to use in 10 minutes and weapon systems like F-16's and Abrams's tanks that take years for American crews to master. Ukraine doesn't have years. This war might be decided before Halloween. Ukrainians aren't going to learn to effectively use F-16's or Abrams tanks in a few months.
No one knows how this is going to end. Not you, not me, not anybody. We try to make the most informed possible judgment, but there are too many unknowns.
Which is why predictions are made based on what is known not simply "Russia bad! So I hope they lose!"
I know two things. First, Russia's hopes for a quick victory disappeared a year ago. Nothing it has done since has suggested it has the capability to deliver the knockout blow it once hoped for.
Russia showed up on parade expecting Ukraine not to fight. It failed. Then they regrouped and pulled back to a line they could defend and advance from and started the slow methodical attrition warfare they have always used. Russia isn't in any hurry. They can produce all of their own food and energy and ammunition. Everything else they can do without. Russians are good at suffering.
Second, the aid given by the U.S. and Western nations to Ukraine will make a huge difference to the outcome: how many more civilians die, whether abducted children get returned, how much of the country will be subject to pillage and looting, whether Ukraine's borders will be viable.
Ukraine's ability to resist is dependent wholly on their ability to provide warm bodies for the trenches. If they run out of bodies or lose the will to lose more bodies they lose. The amount of money and weapons they receive from countries that will not bleed with them means nothing if there aren't enough Ukrainians left to use them.
I've made my choice about what I want to happen, and you've made yours. The only thing I can't understand is how you can look yourself in the mirror.
I didn't want there to be a war.
I didn't want anyone to die.
I don't want Ukraine to be stuck under Russia's boot.
This is the difference between us. You think the world gives a sh*t what you want. I'm an adult so I understand that's not how the world works.
You are advocating for a policy which creates more death. I am advocating for a policy which would create less death.
I didn't start the war. I want it to end. You want it to continue and the idiots running NATO and the US agree with you so tens of thousands more will die and at the end of the day the outcome won't be much different than if Ukraine just rolled over in February of 2022.
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I don't really pay attention to Milley. Not a fan.
However I do have close friends in the US military who were previously deployed to Ukraine. They said a Russian invasion would be disastrous for Russia and they were correct. Nazi Putin's miscalculations are costing him much more than Milley's incorrect assessment.
I don't really pay attention to Milley. Not a fan.
However I do have close friends in the US military who were previously deployed to Ukraine. They said a Russian invasion would be disastrous for Russia and they were correct. Nazi Putin's miscalculations are costing him much more than Milley's incorrect assessment.
It's been much more disastrous for Ukraine.
In the short term… probably. In the long term (10, 20, 50 years)? Far more disastrous for Russia, *if* it even survives the war in its current form, which is far from guaranteed.