Study finds vitamin D provides significant protection from covid

You won't get an answer wrote:

117 dubious conclusions every runner should know wrote:

The study's conclusion:

So it's not just looking at the outcomes of people who got covid, but people who were hospitalized with covid. Huge difference.

And you know what decreases your chance of hospitalization? And decreases the severity of covid infection? The vaccine. Reinventing the got-damn wheel here, I swear. It's like some people would really rather come up with their own answers even if the result is less useful than just following public health advice. All in the name of free thinking. Everything is about identity

I don't see anyone in this thread saying you should take Vitamin D and not get the vaccine. You went there. But if high levels of Vitamin D also help, why would everyone not be happy about this? It takes a special person to get mad at potentially good news.

It should be known to LetsRun regulars that the original poster has not been vaccinated under the pretense that the potential long term side effects, if any, are not known, and has vigorously promoted "alternative" covid mitigation strategies.

That's not to say that vitamin D has no legitimate role in a general covid mitigation strategy, it probably does, but the sense of proportion seems terribly misguided on the available evidence.

To Fisky's credit, it's not apparent that he's posting under multiple pseudonyms and is willing to engage in reasonable discussion of his beliefs which is depressingly rare in this forum.

[quote]Monkeys Skyping wrote:

It should be known to LetsRun regulars that the original poster has not been vaccinated under the pretense that the potential long term side effects, if any, are not known.

Let's not forget short term actual "side" effects. You know, like death

Only masks and vaccines provide protection from COVID.

Correlation is not the same as causation. Has there ever been a study that linked Vitamin D supplementation to positive health effects? Vitamin D levels being associated with positive health effects is not the same as Vitamin D supplementation causing positive health effects. It could just be that sunlight is good for you, and it also happens to increase Vitamin D levels, with some other mechanism other than Vitamin D doing the good work.

I say that because a lot of studies have been done on Vitamin D supplementation, and they don't show the same good health effects and having high Vitamin D levels.

I am taking some Vitamin D because I don't get any sun in the winter (in high latitude), but it's more cheap insurance than belief it actually does anything.

carmine9 wrote:

[quote]Monkeys Skyping wrote:

It should be known to LetsRun regulars that the original poster has not been vaccinated under the pretense that the potential long term side effects, if any, are not known.

Let's not forget short term actual "side" effects. You know, like death

But that happens to so few as to be a negligible concern.

1 in 375 Americans HAS DIED FROME COVID-19. HAS ALREADY DIED!

A few dozen people, maybe even 100 (though I really doubt it) have died from the vaccine. That's about 1 in several MILLION people.

Never mind the non-death consequences of getting Covid-19.

You are one of the most persistent spreaders of disinformation on the internet.

pr100 wrote:

Patients *with vitamin D deficiency*. Most people on a normal diet won't have a vitamin D deficiency, and gain nothing by supplementing.

In summary, vitamin D deficiency was common in the US population, especially among blacks and Hispanics. Given that vitamin D deficiency is linked to some of the important risk factors of leading causes of death in the United States.

Keep in mind that merely "not having deficiency" does not mean "in good health". The benefits continue to accrue eat levels well above "non-deficient". So it is very safe to say that MOST Americans would benefit from D3 supplementation and/or better sun exposure.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

You won't get an answer wrote:

I don't see anyone in this thread saying you should take Vitamin D and not get the vaccine. You went there. But if high levels of Vitamin D also help, why would everyone not be happy about this? It takes a special person to get mad at potentially good news.

It should be known to LetsRun regulars that the original poster has not been vaccinated under the pretense that the potential long term side effects, if any, are not known, and has vigorously promoted "alternative" covid mitigation strategies.

Thank you for filling in the missing context. That's exactly where I was coming from.

fisky wrote:

If you are not taking vitamin D3, you should start. . . .

NIH Vitamin D Consumer fact sheet is here:

after a quick search I found that the polar bear liver kills from vitamin A, rather than vitamin D

pr100 wrote:

Patients *with vitamin D deficiency*. Most people on a normal diet won't have a vitamin D deficiency, and gain nothing by supplementing.

That's totally false. Food contains very little vitamin D. And the few foods that do have some vitamin D usually have it because it's been artificially added.

There are only 2 ways to get vitamin D up to a healthy level. One way is to take a daily vitamin D supplement. (Preferably one that also contains vitamin K.)

The other way is to spend time outdoors in the sun with plenty of your skin exposed, and don't wear sunblock. And being in the sun

isn't enough to get your vitamin D level up high enough if you have dark skin, or are obese, or are elderly, or you wear sunblock, or it's during the winter, or you live far away from the equator, or you live in areas that are cloudy a lot of the time.

The bottom line is most people need a vitamin D supplement.

20 minutes of sunlight with shirt off you get 20,000 units of Vitamin D...

Anti-vaxxers are going to post when they find out that vitamin D isn't 100% effective. That's what they pretend is the standard.

Every single vaccine side effect is 100X worse with actual covid. That's the bottom line. That's the fact. Ignoring that renders all your posts useless.

117 dubious conclusions every runner should know wrote:

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

It should be known to LetsRun regulars that the original poster has not been vaccinated under the pretense that the potential long term side effects, if any, are not known, and has vigorously promoted "alternative" covid mitigation strategies.

Thank you for filling in the missing context. That's exactly where I was coming from.

The context isn't needed and doesn't matter. The OP didn't promote Vitamin D and bash the vaccine in this thread; he just didn't. You added that supposed angle in this instance.

wqrfrf wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

[quote]Monkeys Skyping wrote:

It should be known to LetsRun regulars that the original poster has not been vaccinated under the pretense that the potential long term side effects, if any, are not known.

Let's not forget short term actual "side" effects. You know, like death

But that happens to so few as to be a negligible concern.

1 in 375 Americans HAS DIED FROME COVID-19. HAS ALREADY DIED!

A few dozen people, maybe even 100 (though I really doubt it) have died from the vaccine. That's about 1 in several MILLION people.

Never mind the non-death consequences of getting Covid-19.

You are one of the most persistent spreaders of disinformation on the internet.

Says the guy posting incredibly fake numbers

pr100 wrote:

Patients *with vitamin D deficiency*. Most people on a normal diet won't have a vitamin D deficiency, and gain nothing by supplementing.

A surprising percentage of adults in the US, EU, and the Middle East are deficient in vitamin D.

The following study did a meta-analysis of studies on vitamin D levels and found 103 articles that met their criteria. I'll link to the study below. Summarizing, their analysis found that 34-37% of US adults were deficient in vitamin D. In Europe, it varied by nation ranging from 34% in Spain to 87% in England. In the United States, about 90-100 million adults are deficient in vitamin D.

The Study

Figure 4 from the above study. The color code medium gray indicates vitamin D deficiency. The dark gray indicates extreme vitamin D deficiency.

Who cares? Fisky isn’t discussing the vaccines here, and yet people here immediately become pessimistic on anything that could be promising to overall health. And Vit D can provide broad immune health, not just potentially against COVID. Hey, I’ve got two doses of Pfizer on my body, but I’d love to add a safe “insurance policy,” as another user posted.

If people wonder why there are a lot of others who are so skeptical of vaccines and feel there is an agenda behind it, it might be that they are treated like a panacea (which Omicron certainly debunked), and that nothing else with promise should be considered. The vaccine is a valuable tool, but it’s the rush to put out any alternative (like it’s a fire) is the reason people are losing faith.

SummerSlogger wrote:

Also you generally only need to be in the sunlight 30 minutes a day to maintain regular levels of Vitamin D. It's not like you have to be a day laborer toiling away outside for 8 hrs a day.

That depends on the latitude and also skin pigmentation.

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you are in no position to offer direct medical ... wrote:

You in no position to offer direct medical advice.

Everyone should get their lab values checked. For people whom are sickly, more than once per year. Most everyone else should get their lab values checked at least every three years.

If a person is low on vitamin D, get in the sun &/or eat better &/or take supplements.

A study of 1100 or 1200 individuals means next to nothing.

If you are mega-dosing vitamin d3, there is no evidence you will out live the rest of us.

1200 is a pretty big study.

I can quibble with some findings here, but vitamin D is important and not sure who is recommending megadoses (although there is a mentality that if 10 is good then 20 must be great and that rarely is the case).

Rowdy Yates wrote:

There was a an interview where Fauci admitted under direct questioning that yes, he "...takes some vitamin D every day". It was almost like he hoped his bosses wouldn't catch that he let that slip out. True evil incarnate, that one, and his pharma overlords.

And there has been a push for taking vitamin D supplements for well over a decade so his taking it might have nothing to do with COVID. He might take an iron supplement and maybe testosterone as well.