What to do if coach's plan isn't good

Training Advice/Discussion High School

2 years ago 01/21/2022 11:50am EST

I am a Male senior this year with an 800 pr of 2:01. Last year I had great speed with pretty lackluster endurance which caused me to go 53 in the 400 and only 4:40 in the 1600. I talked to my coach about adding some more endurance sessions as I felt that was my weakness but he hasn't really listened. I haven't been to practice yet and am continuing to do my own plan because I have seen what the team's training is like and they do 8 minute tempos some days with a few 200's some other days. I feel like I am in the best shape I have ever been in right now with doing endurance training with a few sprints, but I am scared what will happen to my fitness once the season begins in a month and I have to start training with the team. This is also the last chance I have at making my future college's team. What should I do?

2 years ago 01/21/2022 11:55am EST

re: Max 43

You should do your own training and go to a few/minimum number of practices where you can concede to perforning that particular workout which the dumb coach has "prepared."

2 years ago 01/21/2022 12:21pm EST

re: Max 43

What do you consider great speed? You can look up a workout plan for 800 runners and see how they compare to your coach's plan for you. Since the HS season is so short (9 weeks?) Assuming that you already have a good base. For the 800 I would look at something that focuses on intervals 2-3 times a week Mon 8x200 reps. Tues 2x600 (max rest) w/4x150s, Weds 6x400s, Thurs an easy 2 mi run, fri off or easy, race sat. If you are focused on the 800 I would also run an all out 400 on sat maybe on the 4x4 or if not then run 1 (or 2x200) on your own about 2-3 hrs after your 800. Interval times will get faster each week. This is not a year round plan, just to get the most out of your sr yr 800

2 years ago 01/21/2022 9:36pm EST

re: Max 43

Why did you agree to be affiliated with this particular coach in the first place? Maybe that question doesn't mean much since you wouldn't have known much about him at first, but why stay with him once you KNOW the whole deal is no good? If a coach sucks, don't agree to be coached by him/her.

2 years ago 01/22/2022 10:53am EST

re: Max 43

Run 40 minutes every morning before school. Do a 70-90 minute long run on Sunday. It really won’t matter then what your coach has you do at his practice,

2 years ago 01/22/2022 11:57am EST

re: Truth Speaker

Better yet,don't attend his practices. I went to a total of one track practice in all of HS. It was accidental. I was running and came across the team. I recognized one guy so I ran with them for a few minutes. The coach didn't know who I was and we never met. I'm tempted to say:

"High school coaching problems solved!"

But it would be more accurate to say:

"No high school coaching problems in the first place!"

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