Inflation soars to 7%!!!

He is not complaining about pork. Pork has largely been eliminated since 2011. He is criticizing you for misrepresenting the bills and ignoring (or not even knowing about) their costs and negative second-order consequences.

Yawn^10 wrote:

You are right about nothing. The closest you got to being correct was when you said Biden passed zero pieces of legislation. He has ruled through executive orders so yes, he doesn’t pass almost things. But maybe you forgot the second round of Covid relief Biden and the dems shoved down our throats with a party line vote.

What has the GOP and trump done for you? What does the GOP stand for? Why are you a follower?

Why not think about and be honest. Was it disparaging gold star families? Making fun of military heroes? Calling other countries sh!thole countries? Maybe you are in the 1% that got a major tax break in 2017? Work a job that is dependent upon destroying the environment?

What does the GOP do to make you a fan?

Hardloper wrote:

He is not complaining about pork. Pork has largely been eliminated since 2011. He is criticizing you for misrepresenting the bills and ignoring (or not even knowing about) their costs and negative second-order consequences.

He is very much complaining about pork.

I am not misrepresenting anything. The GOP voted against every bill I listed and I was just going from memory.

Do you honestly think the GOP voted against those bills due second order consequences? Or is it to restrict Biden/American people success and more so, to please their lobbyists?

What has the GOP done for you? Why are you a follower, if you are?

Sure, at times you swallow the pork and make deals, but it isn't a requirement. McConnell knows that Biden is a tough spot with a split senate. He doesn't have the support or the votes to get things across the finish line so McConnell can come out and say things like he did. It's not different than what the other side have done when a republican is in the Oval Office. It's the "process" as you put it.

My issue is when people, like yourself, make statements in bad faith such as republicans voted against things like voting rights or cutting child poverty when you know good and well that the reason is because the bills are loaded with BS. Again, I'm introducing a bill titled: "If you don't vote for this you hate puppies" in which the US government will provide federal monies to find every stray a loving family. If you don't vote for it, you hate puppies and should be voted out of office. Oh, by the way, the bill also includes 1 trillion USD to kill all cats...nevermind that part of the bill though, vote for it or ill run endless press about how you hate puppies.

My pay went up a good bit under Trump and I took home more of that pay, so from a purely selfish perspective that was nice. I think you shouldn't phrase it as GOP/Trump, as I stated im not a republican, but I do find myself drifting towards more conservative principles due to the rapid shift of the liberal party so far left that even traditional liberals feel left behind. Smaller federal government feels like the right approach at this point and allow states to manage things, as was the original intent of this republic...Article 1 Section 8 type stuff.

"Big government bad" is coordinated propaganda that started with Reagan. The Republicans spend pretty much just as much as the Democrats and yet they preach small government so they can vote against anything that helps poor people. They don't actually stand by the small government thing.

I also wonder why it's somehow an undeniable fact that "The federal government is already doing a crappy job as is." Compared to what? How are we measuring how good or bad they are doing? Are any other governments doing better and if so, who? I guess I'm just wondering how this idea got into everyone's mind as if it were inarguable.

The amount of feces in Biden's diaper has increased by way more than 7% in the last year, not to mention his feces for brains supporters.

george cos wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

He is not complaining about pork. Pork has largely been eliminated since 2011. He is criticizing you for misrepresenting the bills and ignoring (or not even knowing about) their costs and negative second-order consequences.

He is very much complaining about pork.

No, he's not. Here's a better example of what you're doing:

You: Here's a $1 trillion bill to prevent killing puppies.

Me: I don't think hat bill will work, and I don't think we need to spend $1 trillion on it.

You: Hardloper supports killing puppies!

george cos wrote:

What has the GOP done for you? Why are you a follower, if you are?

Not spend additional trillions when unemployment is low and inflation is 7%

Not close the schools for a year

Not micromanage my personal health and interactions

Better philosophy of interpreting the constitution (do Dems even have one?)

The GOP is far from perfect (I'm currently still registered Dem) but I definitely support them over the Democrats currently.

Biden job approval in new Quinnipiac poll is 33% among adults - and just 25% with Indies.

Among registered voters it is 35%.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us01122022_ubjw88.pdf

You are the very first person to answer the question of what trump/GOP did for you and I have asked it at least 3 dozen times on this forum. My wife and I combined made around $160K and we payed about $4K more in taxes in 2018 and it is going up since. To try to pay for his tax cut to the rich he put in increasing taxes on the middle class until 2027 (I think). What did he do to allow your salary to go up and bring home additional money?

My comments were not in bad faith. I believe, right or wrong, in what I said. Yes there is pork and I think we all agree it stinks. I think sometimes it is worth it to get important benefits to everyday people. I understand your analogy with the dogs and cats, but do you really believe the pork is that catastrophic? And you are obviously intelligent, so do you truly believe the GOP didn't vote for those bills due to pork. Every bill trump put forth was loaded with just as much pork and they voted for every one,.

Government is not smaller under GOP rule. Once upon a time it was, but that ship has sailed. It is a GOP, true GOP (Romney, etc.) talking point that no longer rings true.

I don't disagree with the liberal shift of the Dems. I believe it is a vocal minority just as the trump crazies are a very small number, but overly vocal.

Inflation 7%

Yet US T-bills for 12 months are paying 0.5%.

Interesting, I am the sole provider for my family and make less than your combined income and I saw a quite noticeable increase in take home pay after the tax cuts. Our company gave out raises each year of the trump presidency because the company was doing well along with the economy.

You keep making the mistake of framing this as a GOP and Democrat discussion, I don't care about either "party". I have a set of principles and values that I let guide my voting decision. Lately, I have noticed that things are shifting to the left at a much faster pace than I think is appropriate; therefore, I lean more conservative at this point in time. Most liberals will tell you that they want to get the nation to such a good place that they can become conservative, current elected officials on the left seem to be intent on leaving the more moderate voter behind. Green new deal, BBB, giving illegal immigrants free healthcare. All these things don't sit well with most moderates.

Base effects and supply chain issues are the two major factors in the inflation at the moment. The pandemic is the main cause for both of those. Joe Biden or his policies have nothing to do with the inflation we are seeing now.

Another cause of supply chain issues is due to the labor shortage, and the reasons for the labor shortage are three-fold:

1) Boomers retiring completely (partly due to COVID, partly due to the great stock market we have had that has built up their savings).

2) People staying home with children who are too young to get vaccinated against COVID.

3) AND THIS IS NOT TO BE OVERLOOKED! - The comparative trickle of immigrants coming to the US over the last about 6 years due to both COVID and the stupid "America First" and anti-immigration tone that has been rampant here. I don't want immigrants to come here to perform slave-like labor for us, but the fact of the matter is a married couple from a war-torn or politically dangerous or economically horrible country can come here and make $30,000+ each even at a fast food place, live in a nice apartment, and have a chance to move up to management where they can make even more. That is a very attractive lifestyle for many. We need to encourage as much LEGAL immigration as possible.

Hardloper wrote:

george cos wrote:

What has the GOP done for you? Why are you a follower, if you are?

1) Not spend additional trillions when unemployment is low and inflation is 7%

2) Not close the schools for a year

3) Not micromanage my personal health and interactions

4) Better philosophy of interpreting the constitution (do Dems even have one?)

The GOP is far from perfect (I'm currently still registered Dem) but I definitely support them over the Democrats currently.

Actually he has responded with intelligent posts and doesn't seem to need you to speak for him.

You honestly believe the GOP votes down legislation due to the pork? Why didn't they do the same 3 years ago? I posted McConnell's quest.

Thanks for answering the question. Responding to your answer's above:

1) So where were you in 2017 when trillions were spent on making the wealthy, wealthier? You are okay with a military budget larger than the next twelve countries combined? I am not speaking for you, but that seems hollow.

2) Schools are not federally controlled. I thought states rights were a priority? Not local rights? For the record I personally am VERY much against closing schools. At-risk kids will never recover in my eyes.

3)That is an inaccurate talking point put out there by the right to try to stop free health care. Those choices would not go away, it would just have a small (in comparison) cost attached. The health care industry spends incredible lobbyist money to both parties to perpetuate this myth. States that expanded Obamacare prospered and those that didn't saw rates level and some even rise.

4)This is incredibly subjective and can be interpreted in any way that fits your personal thoughts. The Dems do have a philosophy, much like the GOP, evident to followers and non-existent to the other side.

There is no way for me to know if you believe what you wrote or just tried to come up with something. The latter appears more likely to me, but I have no business in making that determination. Thanks for answering the question.

I read the following in the WSJ recently:

Last year General Mills paid approximately $300 million dividend to investors, bought back $150 million in stock to enrich execs and investors, and pays it's CEO $16 million. They made a $2.1 billion profit.

They raised their prices a little over 20% on cereal and publicly claimed it "was due to inflation."

Look, the idiot is doubling down on the same stupidity he posted last time this topic came up.

Your view is common for people who aren't strongly aligned with a certain party after a Presidential election. This is why mid-term elections often (as in almost all the time) go to the party that is not in the White House.

While I disagree with you that the current liberal policies are not "appropriate", again, your view from a moderate at this time after a Presidential election is common.

One thing that happens when a VERY radical administration is in place (and love him or hate him, Trump was radical) is that there is often a HUGE push back as a result. Much of the push back actually happened DURING Trump's presidency...more women and POC involved in politics than ever before, NASCAR not allowing the Confederate Battle Flag to be flown at their events, racist symbols and statues removed nationwide, sports teams names changed after decades of pressure. The final big push back is that Americans voted for Joe Biden with a record number of votes...yes, JOE BIDEN! America wasn't voting FOR Biden. We were voting AGAINST Trump, making Trump the biggest loser in American history...two-time loser of the popular vote, only one twice impeached.

Regarding free health care for undocumented immigrants, much of that is one of a few things: BS noise, common practice that Emergency Rooms can't refuse service (something that has been the case pretty much forever), something that some STATES provide, not a federal policy.

One of the line items regarding the Affordable Care Act is this:

"Undocumented immigrants cannot buy plans in the exchange, but some states provide coverage for some undocumented immigrant children and pregnant women.

Are undocumented immigrants eligible for ACA coverage?

No. Although the ACA provides benefits to U.S. citizens and lawfully present immigrants alike, it does not directly provide any benefits for undocumented immigrants.

The ACA specifically prevents non-lawfully present immigrants from enrolling in coverage through the exchanges (section 1312(f)(3)). And they are also not eligible for Medicaid under federal guidelines. So the two major cornerstones of coverage expansion under the ACA are not available to undocumented immigrants."

It's not BS noise when during a democratic primary the moderator asks for a show of hands on who would support giving illegal immigrants free healthcare and all candidates on stage raise their hand. That sends a clear signal that the left is shifting even farther left.

It's also why you see a shift with hispanic voters moving more towards the conservative mindset. They hear the liberals promising things to illegals which makes the legal immigrants wonder why they went through all the trouble to migrate here legally. They also see the left moving more towards the authoritarian governments they fled from in their home countries...things like vaccine mandates do not sit well with hispanic voters. I live in an area with a large hispanic population and most have shifted in their political affiliation in the past 4-5 years.

Perhaps I should have said "proposed" liberal policies instead of "current" liberal policies. I'd say proposed liberal policies are inappropriate and my view is supported by moderate democrats who refuse to vote for these policies and bills.

FWIW, Biden ran on a more moderate and centrist campaign, but has proven he is more in alignment with the farther from center liberals than he let the voters know. Or he's just so far out to lunch that his cabinet is just giving him a list of options and he chooses one that sounds good, most of which are all farther left than he may have initially planned for....who knows.

george cos wrote:

Yawn^10 wrote:

You are right about nothing. The closest you got to being correct was when you said Biden passed zero pieces of legislation. He has ruled through executive orders so yes, he doesn’t pass almost things. But maybe you forgot the second round of Covid relief Biden and the dems shoved down our throats with a party line vote.

What has the GOP and trump done for you? What does the GOP stand for? Why are you a follower?

Why not think about and be honest. Was it disparaging gold star families? Making fun of military heroes? Calling other countries sh!thole countries? Maybe you are in the 1% that got a major tax break in 2017? Work a job that is dependent upon destroying the environment?

What does the GOP do to make you a fan?

Why does everything have to be about the GOP and trump. Can’t you just acknowledge Biden sucks?

But to answer your silly question, Trump lowered my taxes (and like I said before I am not close to the top 1%) and for the most part he left me alone.

He didn’t try and force a vaccine on me (he did authorize its creation), he didn’t let millions of unvetted and ungrateful immigrants from poop hole countries in, and he didn’t botch an Afghanistan pullout.

That’s off the top of my head. Meanwhile your hero Biden keeps spending money we don’t have (all presidents are guilty of this. Biden is just more wasteful with my tax dollars) all while putting fuel on racial fires.

Yawn^10 wrote:

Why does everything have to be about the GOP and trump. Can’t you just acknowledge Biden sucks?

But to answer your silly question, Trump lowered my taxes (and like I said before I am not close to the top 1%) and for the most part he left me alone.

He didn’t try and force a vaccine on me (he did authorize its creation), he didn’t let millions of unvetted and ungrateful immigrants from poop hole countries in, and he didn’t botch an Afghanistan pullout.

That’s off the top of my head. Meanwhile your hero Biden keeps spending money we don’t have (all presidents are guilty of this. Biden is just more wasteful with my tax dollars) all while putting fuel on racial fires.

I'm sure you are human and get worked up and what you present is not truely representative of you and your intelligence. But your ramblings are just not worth replying to. They really come across as though not a single thought has preceded them.