Is a 3 hour marathon impressive to you for a man under 40?

seattle prattle wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

In every conceivable way.

I find that line of criticism offensive.

his arrogance is offensive. He thinks he knows everything about every single subject. He's obviously a musician but hasn't the faintest clue what it takes to reach a proficient level in classical music.

I on the other hand do know what it's like to run a race and demonstrated through my performances I had sub 3 hour potential in the marathon.

Flagpole is someone who should spend less time on this message board. He probably has marital problems and that's why he's here so often. If I was his wife I wouldn't be able to stand him either.

You both need to grow up.

But suit yourselves, I have better things to do.

Flagpole is a moron, everyone on this board long enough knew it. In fairness to him though, he's indeed a better runner and musician than Greg according to the stuff both of you two posted.

The consensus is that Flagpole is a better runner and musician, while Greg is slightly less despicable person than Flagpole, so I would call it a tie overall. They both suck.

Professional_amateur wrote:

In fairness to him though, he's indeed a better musician than Greg according to the stuff both of you two posted.

LOL, he posted 1 song once and it was simple improvisation to a blues theme. He is not a better musician, don't kid yourself.

He can't play difficult pieces. I can. That's the difference.

Professional_amateur wrote:

he's indeed a better musician than Greg according to the stuff both of you two posted.

you either are hearing impaired or have not listened to our recordings.

Plus he doesn't have the professional training I have as a musician.

I find it highly unlikely anyone would believe him to be the better musician except in very rare circumstances.

Found you! I was commenting on your tico tico piano piece when the thread was deleted. You think that using octaves in the left hand with only an added 5th is impressive? Your timing was bad again like it was with that other song. Hopefully you get personal enjoyment out of playing, because you aren't that good. Enjoyment is the only thing that matters anyway. Maybe you are good at something else? I'm betting you are!

Music Lover wrote:

Found you! I was commenting on your tico tico piano piece when the thread was deleted. You think that using octaves in the left hand with only an added 5th is impressive? Your timing was bad again like it was with that other song. Hopefully you get personal enjoyment out of playing, because you aren't that good. Enjoyment is the only thing that matters anyway. Maybe you are good at something else? I'm betting you are!

I was a professional pianist for over 10 years and I taught students as well. I think I was 'good enough'. I make YouTube videos occasionally for fun.

Greg wrote:

Professional_amateur wrote:

he's indeed a better musician than Greg according to the stuff both of you two posted.

you either are hearing impaired or have not listened to our recordings.

Plus he doesn't have the professional training I have as a musician.

I find it highly unlikely anyone would believe him to be the better musician except in very rare circumstances.

Professional training doesn't mean anything. Either your music sounds better than his or it doesn't. Looks like the consensus is that you aren't as good.

Greg wrote:

I was a professional pianist for over 10 years and I taught students as well. I think I was 'good enough'. I make YouTube videos occasionally for fun.

Well, they say that those who can't, teach. Makes sense you were a teacher.

Just a Poster wrote:

Greg wrote:

you either are hearing impaired or have not listened to our recordings.

Plus he doesn't have the professional training I have as a musician.

I find it highly unlikely anyone would believe him to be the better musician except in very rare circumstances.

Professional training doesn't mean anything. Either your music sounds better than his or it doesn't. Looks like the consensus is that you aren't as good.

consensus would imply many people agreed with you, and they don't.

Listen, you guys can believe whatever you want. This is a stupid silly argument and a stupid thread.

I felt I had sub 3 hour marathon ability. Some people didn't agree. Ok, we can agree to disagree. Fact is, my PRs point to a marathon under 3 hours. Others with similar PRs to me have run in the high 2:30s to mid 2:40s. Some slower.

So for you guys to tell me I can't break 3 hours isn't realistic when my PRs indicate I can.

Second, Flagpole apparently is a musician who plays in bands. He doesn't play as a soloist like I have. Big difference.

At my peak as a pianist I was playing advanced piano pieces, as exemplified in my recording of Beethoven's Tempest piano Sonata. I also played pop music and other styles. I played primarily as a soloist.

I did 2 cruise line contracts as a pianist. I was paid $750/week at one point to play twice weekly at a casino. That was my best paying gig in my career. I had a contract to do that for 4 months. I started at $600/week the first month and they bumped me up to $750/week soon thereafter.

I've played in many hotels and some small festivals.

I don't care about random critique from random posters on the internet about my musicianship when I'm not even playing these days anymore.

I feel I accomplished a great deal in my career as a musician. If someone who plays in bands like Flagpole wants to believe they are superior, that's fine, but I know what I've gone through and the level I achieved as a musician. Flagpole has a huge ego and wants to discount the years of serious classical training (not to mention music theory) that I have.

He dismisses it because it's a huge load of work he never did.

Music Lover wrote:

Greg wrote:

I was a professional pianist for over 10 years and I taught students as well. I think I was 'good enough'. I make YouTube videos occasionally for fun.

Well, they say that those who can't, teach. Makes sense you were a teacher.

Keep trying. Many great musicians are teachers as well.

I did both, teach and perform. More of the latter as my life went on.

Greg wrote:

Keep trying. Many great musicians are teachers as well.

Well, you aren't one of them.

Not sure what you're reading, but most of the posters here said they liked his music better than yours. I guess we hear what we want to hear. I've never heard a musician brag about playing on a cruise ship before. Way to set the bar high! Probably good that you aren't playing anymore. Find something you're good at.

Just a Poster wrote:

Not sure what you're reading, but most of the posters here said they liked his music better than yours. I guess we hear what we want to hear. I've never heard a musician brag about playing on a cruise ship before. Way to set the bar high! Probably good that you aren't playing anymore. Find something you're good at.

No that's not true, he hasn't shared any music.

You are mistaken, most posters were impressed with this:

Challenge: Flagpole play something equal in difficulty to this

Just a Poster wrote: I've never heard a musician brag about playing on a cruise ship before. Way to set the bar high! Probably good that you aren't playing anymore. .

Dude, you haven't any idea what you are talking about.

I played as a soloist on the cruise ship. I had a repertoire of 100's of songs. All from memory I had to take requests.

You can do that right? No you can't. Don't judge what you can't do.

Oh, and I didn't brag about it, I just stated it. Cruise gigs are only one of the gigs I had, I only did 2 contracts.

You're right, I set a bar high because I actually made a living as a pro musician, something you seem to have been unable to achieve.

Just a Poster wrote:

Not sure what you're reading, but most of the posters here said they liked his music better than yours. I guess we hear what we want to hear. I've never heard a musician brag about playing on a cruise ship before. Way to set the bar high! Probably good that you aren't playing anymore. Find something you're good at.

Also, you seem to be quite naive. How many posters like his music (which he doesn't share)?

3? 2? Wow, big sample size. Look, it doesn't matter what they say, I know for a fact Flagpole cannot match that level of musicianship. He hasn't 't the training to do so. You can't learn that piece by quitting your piano lessons, which he admits to doing.

So it would be next to impossible for him to impress me.

How does someone like music that doesn't exist? LOL

Greg wrote:

Just a Poster wrote: I've never heard a musician brag about playing on a cruise ship before. Way to set the bar high! Probably good that you aren't playing anymore. .

Dude, you haven't any idea what you are talking about.

I played as a soloist on the cruise ship. I had a repertoire of 100's of songs. All from memory I had to take requests.

You can do that right? No you can't. Don't judge what you can't do.

Oh, and I didn't brag about it, I just stated it. Cruise gigs are only one of the gigs I had, I only did 2 contracts.

You're right, I set a bar high because I actually made a living as a pro musician, something you seem to have been unable to achieve.

I'm no musician, but I don't have to be one to know that the best ones don't end up on cruise ships. The music you shared is not nice to listen to. Maybe work on playing music that a human might want to hear.