From the 90s wrote:
The irony is how liberal Hollywood preaches anti gun yet their movies are filled with gun violence. Guns used safely to hunt and protect oneself are appropriate. However they rarely portray this responsible use of them. Looks like Baldwin’s chickens have come home too roost.
Are you saying they shouldn't make westerns anymore. Maybe a good point , but not for the stupid logic you have
too right, my man wrote:
Nice to see the usual right wing wack job circle-jerk on here. You guys are so f-ing stupid it's sad. Thankfully covid is reducing your numbers.
As desperately as you jack-offs want otherwise, an actor is not going to be liable for any kind of manslaughter in this situation. And if normal movie safety protocols were violated, there could be some civil liability but it won't fall on Baldwin personally but his production company.
Right. Conservatives are “sad”.
Baldwin kills a woman and it’s about conservatives.
You are delusional.
Flagpole wrote:
oops baldwin wrote:
There will be questions about this shooting because is a known violent person. He was arrested a few years ago for punching someone over a parking. He was required to take an anger management class. Someone crying (feeling remorseful) after they intentionally do something to someone else with an unexpected result is not uncommon. That two non-actors were shot means that the gun was fired twice. That one person was killed and one is in emergency means the shooting was at close range and they were directly in the line of sight.
https://webtopnews.com/alec-baldwin-arrested-after-fight-over-parking-spot-report-11061-2018/https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/alec-baldwin-due-court-charges-punched-parking-605611891) I know he has had anger management issues. He has also shown big mistakes as a father. I have already called him a prick...because he is.
2) Right now it still appears that this was an accident. They are describing it as happening during the filming of a scene, so as of now it does not appear that this was due to any malice or negligence on Baldwin's part.
3) If the facts show that Baldwin did act maliciously or with negligence, I will excoriate him.
JeezusH! You are the biggest arsehole on this board.
too right, my man wrote:
As desperately as you jack-offs want otherwise, an actor is not going to be liable for any kind of manslaughter in this situation. And if normal movie safety protocols were violated, there could be some civil liability but it won't fall on Baldwin personally but his production company.
Whew, glad hes an actor. Might have had some liability here if not for his actor status.
Maybe when they all come out of the actor fairyland portal the victim will get her life back. Wasn't aware of this murder loophole but will be sure to add it to my memory.
Yes murderers everywhere should just claim they are acting and make movies with their phone. Then liberals will defend them
too right, my man wrote:
Nice to see the usual right wing wack job circle-jerk on here. You guys are so f-ing stupid it's sad. Thankfully covid is reducing your numbers.
As desperately as you jack-offs want otherwise, an actor is not going to be liable for any kind of manslaughter in this situation. And if normal movie safety protocols were violated, there could be some civil liability but it won't fall on Baldwin personally but his production company.
Is this what people mean when they talk about "toxic" posts? Expressing gratitude that certain people are dying or dead, vulgar name calling, defending a presumptive violent felon responsible for the shooting deaths of two people. Is that "toxic" or just normal stuff?
America's fury wrote:
Possibly one of the disgruntled union folks put a live round in the gun before they left.
Considering all the safeguards in place to prevent an accidental discharge on movie sets, this is a possibility the police need to investigate. A disgruntled employee might have thought a round would have been discharged harmlessly into a wall, but the ensuing safety inspection would shut down production.
Crew member blaming prop crew but it is on the person handling the gun (Baldwin) to make sure there is no live round in it. And you are given a gun and don't inspect it and then pointing it around. THAT is on you!
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-movie-911-call-released
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of "Rust" with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours and getting their paychecks, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
The camera crew showed up for work as expected at 6:30 a.m. Thursday and began gathering up their gear and personal belongings to leave, one knowledgeable crew member told the Los Angeles Times.
An aerial image of the church at Bonanza Creek Ranch, near Santa Fe, N.M. (ASSOCIATED PRESS)
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An aerial image of the church at Bonanza Creek Ranch, near Santa Fe, N.M. (ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Labor trouble had been brewing for days on the dusty set at the Bonanza Creek Ranch near Santa Fe.
Shooting began on Oct. 6 and members of the production said they had been promised the production would pay for their hotel rooms in Santa Fe.
But after filming began, the crews were told they instead would be required to make the 50-mile drive from Albuquerque each day, rather than stay overnight in nearby Santa Fe.
The cinematographer who was accidentally killed, Halyna Hutchins, had been advocating for safer conditions for her team, said one crew member who was on the set.
As the camera crew — members of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees — spent about an hour assembling their gear at the Bonanza Creek Ranch, several nonunion crew members showed up to replace them, the knowledgeable person said.
A member of the producer staff then ordered the union members to leave the set. She said if they didn't leave, the producers would call security to remove them.
"Corners were being cut — and they brought in nonunion people so they could continue shooting," the knowledgeable person said.
There were two misfires on the prop gun on Saturday and one the previous week, the person said, adding "there was a serious lack of safety meetings on this set."
"The safety of our cast and crew is the top priority of Rust Productions and everyone associated with the company, " Rust Movie Productions LLC said in a statement. "Though we were not made aware of any official complaints concerning weapon or prop safety on set, we will be conducting an internal review of our procedures while production is shut down. We will continue to cooperate with the Santa Fe authorities in their investigation and offer mental health services to the cast and crew during this tragic time."
The shooting occurred about six hours after the union camera crew left.
Baldwin, the film's star who also served as a producer on the film, was apparently rehearsing a scene outside the church of the Bonzana Creek Ranch set, according to two knowledgeable people.
The scene involved a gun fight that began in the church, and then Baldwin's character was supposed to back out of the church, according to production notes obtained by The Times. It was the 12th day of a 21-day shoot.
The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office said deputies were dispatched to the Bonanza Creek Ranch movie set, where filming was underway for the western “Rust,” after calls to 911 at 1:50 p.m. Baldwin was starring in the movie in addition to serving as one of the producers.
No charges have been filed, but the Sheriff’s Office said that “witnesses continue to be interviewed by detectives.”
Baldwin said Friday he’s “fully cooperating with the police investigation” into the incident.
“There are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of Halyna Hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours,” Baldwin wrote Friday in a series of tweets.
Production has been halted on the low-budget movie, which began filming this month.
In an email to its members, Local 44 of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, a union that represents prop masters, said the shot that killed Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza on Thursday was “a live single round.”
“As many of us have already heard, there was an accidental weapons discharge on a production titled Rust being filmed in New Mexico,” said the North Hollywood-based local. “A live single round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor, hitting both the Director of Photography, Local 600 member Halyna Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza. Both were rushed to the hospital,” the email said.
A source close to union said Local 44 does not know what projectile was in the gun and clarified that “live” is an industry term that refers to a gun being loaded with some material such as a blank ready for filming.
Bonanza Creek Ranch has been a popular filming location for more than 60 years. The first movie to
New Mexico has an involuntary manslaughter charge that Baldwin could be charged with. Even if it was 100% accidental, he pointed a loaded gun at someone and pulled the trigger killing them.
The Unkle wrote:
I am Sam wrote:
So you are implying that actors should check all the props they are given to use? Or that they should boycott films where guns are used??
Holes in this story.
How can a prop gun kill someone?
How is it he shot not one but two people?
Makes no sense.
Bullets go through things... That includes people.
fisky wrote:
America's fury wrote:
Possibly one of the disgruntled union folks put a live round in the gun before they left.
Considering all the safeguards in place to prevent an accidental discharge on movie sets, this is a possibility the police need to investigate. A disgruntled employee might have thought a round would have been discharged harmlessly into a wall, but the ensuing safety inspection would shut down production.
More likely Baldwin, as the producer, took shortcuts to make more money. Ignored safety protocols. Gross negligence on his part. Criminal and civil litigation in the pipeline.
Charles Bukowski wrote:
fisky wrote:
Considering all the safeguards in place to prevent an accidental discharge on movie sets, this is a possibility the police need to investigate. A disgruntled employee might have thought a round would have been discharged harmlessly into a wall, but the ensuing safety inspection would shut down production.
More likely Baldwin, as the producer, took shortcuts to make more money. Ignored safety protocols. Gross negligence on his part. Criminal and civil litigation in the pipeline.
You are palpably not very bright. You endlessly and tediously speculate without warrant. Please stop embarrassing yourself until an investigation is done.
"Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set that day said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges on Saturday.
Baldwin's stunt-double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was "cold" — lingo for a weapon that doesn't have any ammunition, including blanks, one of crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times."
Yes and of course all of you ring wing nut jobs such as Bukowski are the same nitwits who would do anything to destroy unions and it appears the union workers MIGHT have prevented this tragedy if they had been there.
ghat man wrote:
New Mexico has an involuntary manslaughter charge that Baldwin could be charged with. Even if it was 100% accidental, he pointed a loaded gun at someone and pulled the trigger killing them.
"Involuntary manslaughter also involves a killing that occurs while the defendant is engaging in a lawful but dangerous act without exercising “due caution and circumspection.” Involuntary manslaughter is a fourth-degree felony, punishable by up to eighteen months in prison and a fine of up to $5,000."
New Mexico Statutes
Chapter 30: Criminal Offenses
Article 2: Homicide, 30-2-1 through 30-2-9
Section 30-2-3: Manslaughter.
WiTuLo wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) I know he has had anger management issues. He has also shown big mistakes as a father. I have already called him a prick...because he is.
2) Right now it still appears that this was an accident. They are describing it as happening during the filming of a scene, so as of now it does not appear that this was due to any malice or negligence on Baldwin's part.
3) If the facts show that Baldwin did act maliciously or with negligence, I will excoriate him.
JeezusH! You are the biggest arsehole on this board.
Yes he is - the classic self-righteous know-it-all, knower of nothing. The prototypical middle-aged white American and half his cr@p is all because of festering white guilt anyways.
The big tragedy on this message board which pales in comparison to the obvious tragedy that a woman lost her life, a husband his wife and children their mother is that people think it's appropriate to jump on here and start leveraging their own little pathetic agendas (social, political, whatever) using this as the catalyst. It's absolutely disgusting. F-ing people need to take a good hard look in the mirror, seriously.
You are correct Salvitore BUT you are as self righteous as just about anyone here.
Peder wrote:
Yes and of course all of you ring wing nut jobs such as Bukowski are the same nitwits who would do anything to destroy unions and it appears the union workers MIGHT have prevented this tragedy if they had been there.
You started this thread just for troll purposes, and it backfired on you completely. Liberals have been completely humiliated here on the Baldwin gun shooting issues, and it upsets you.
You are just going to have to live with what you have wrought. Same as Baldwin.