Alec Baldwin just shot and KILLED a woman on a movie set

bigmig19 wrote:

Buck snot wrote:

What crap. Liberals preach that Americans shouldn’t have guns, then make millions of $$$$ glorifying guns.

Would you be this forgiving if Baldwin wasn’t a hard core liberal? Was Dick Cheney deserving of our humanity when he shot someone? At least he didn’t kill them. Baldwin shot a woman, for Christ’s sakes.

To be fair, we didnt attack Dick Cehney, we more just made fun of him. If you could have guessed anyone would shoot their friend by accident you would have chosen the dark lord Cheney. It was funny, not so much 2nd ammendment fodder. (the guy survived)

Yep. We did make fun of Cheney. The guy DID survive, and I was VERY glad the guy survived not only for his sake but because I am compassionate and wouldn't want Cheney to suffer the grief of having killed someone.

The Unkle wrote:

tennis legend wrote:

They shoot and kill bad guys intentionally.

I support them 100%

Why would anyone not be supportive of their work? Unless you are a criminal.

So in your world, any cop who shoots anyone is justified?

Getting shop by a cop makes you a bad guy?

Like I said, cops shoot and kill the bad guys. In the real world. And I support them. Apparently you support criminals.

rojo wrote:

phony al wrote:

mr liberal gun control guy cant practice what he preaches all over about all the gun control and all the liberal stuff canceling the second amendment and those who practice it

Why are people trying to make this some political thing? It's a tragedy. But if you are going to make it political, i this supports his belief in in gun control. As even a prop gun is dangerous.

Why? Because Baldwin, an actor, makes everything political. That's he he wants it.

Steiner Math wrote:

Maybe the projectile grazed the first person and continued to kill the second?

Baldwin is a douche but this isn't the appropriate time to pile on.

If it turns out he pulled the trigger a second time after the first person was hit, then it would be appropriate to pile on

This is a great time to pile on. Baldwin was always trash. Now he's a murderer.

Flagpole wrote:

From the 90s wrote:

The irony is how liberal Hollywood preaches anti gun yet their movies are filled with gun violence. Guns used safely to hunt and protect oneself are appropriate. However they rarely portray this responsible use of them. Looks like Baldwin’s chickens have come home too roost.

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

You are a disgusting hypocrite.

Of course this was an accident and giving Baldwin any grief is wrong.

But you are the moron who insulted a recently deceased mother because she was unvaccinated. You showed zero humanity.

You are a hypocrite.

So the prop master had it in for the cinematographer all along? Hmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP3MuUTmXNk

I'll Take This One... wrote:

Monster of your making, Rojo. Unless I am blind and deaf to the fact that most club run conversations revolve around political issues, conspiracies, and macho posturing? I must run with that weird and boring club that just chats about training, recent movies, and what's going on at work.

You are docile and effeminate.

Got it

Robson Street . wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

Baldwin can't tell what is kind or unkind . His comedy is based on mocking a personality trait of others . He is crying because he is a killer , a reckless person who should be punished for negligence . Those who work in production know he was to safety check the firearm . Watch this cold blooded person lawyer up and focus blame on others .

Wow. Such crap. ALL Presidents are made fun of by comedians and sketch comedy. Bill Clinton, Obama, Jimmy Carter...ALL of them.

Baldwin was involved in a terrible accident. There is no way he is culpable here, and for you to bring up what you think of him as a person shows a huge lack of empathy or humanity on your part. You need some serious self-reflection.

Flagpole wrote:

From the 90s wrote:

The irony is how liberal Hollywood preaches anti gun yet their movies are filled with gun violence. Guns used safely to hunt and protect oneself are appropriate. However they rarely portray this responsible use of them. Looks like Baldwin’s chickens have come home too roost.

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

F$ck that guy. He can taste his own medicine. He's a viscous, mean-spirited, trash human.

He's in tears only because what this means to him. Maybe don't shoot people if you're so caring.

rgw wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

You are a disgusting hypocrite.

Of course this was an accident and giving Baldwin any grief is wrong.

But you are the moron who insulted a recently deceased mother because she was unvaccinated. You showed zero humanity.

You are a hypocrite.

THAT woman not only didn't protect herself and her family (she was HUGELY irresponsible here because she had two small special needs children who needed her to be alive), but she also preached to others not to get vaccinated. ALSO, I am SO SAD that she died. I wish she hadn't. That doesn't negate the fact that she was a MORON for not protecting herself and her family.

1) I know he has had anger management issues. He has also shown big mistakes as a father. I have already called him a prick...because he is.

2) Right now it still appears that this was an accident. They are describing it as happening during the filming of a scene, so as of now it does not appear that this was due to any malice or negligence on Baldwin's part.

3) If the facts show that Baldwin did act maliciously or with negligence, I will excoriate him.

Muzzle control + trigger control (neither existed in this scenario)

Gun control is about personal responsibility. A gun doesn't just "discharge" or " go off".

I am Sam wrote:

phony al wrote:

mr liberal gun control guy cant practice what he preaches all over about all the gun control and all the liberal stuff canceling the second amendment and those who practice it

So you are implying that actors should check all the props they are given to use? Or that they should boycott films where guns are used??

It seems like they shouldn't need to check the gun, there should be a person on scene whose only job is exactly that.

That being said, I cant imagine pointing a prop gun at somebody and pulling the trigger without triple checking it first. My understanding is that most of these are real firearms loaded with blanks, for practical reasons, its easier to source real guns and blank ammo that fits into a real gun.

That being said, it shouldn't be that hard to get a gun Smith to make the gun unable to chamber normal ammunition, for most types of guns. Depending on the type of firearm, it should be possible to shorten the chamber significantly, to where a round with an actual bullet in it has too long of an overall length to feed.

I'm also not sure how you shoot two people at once, I guess a shotgun?

But really these mistakes shouldn't happen. Law enforcement does force on force simulations all the time without shooting each other. We use special chalk rounds and follow specific rules to prevent anybody from accidentally loading real rounds. Film sets should be able to come up with similar rules.

The god of the flagpoles has spoken

This isnt true at all. There shouldnt be a "handler" checking it. You, personally, need to check it and secure the weapon. Just because someone told you isnt loaded you still need to take that step. You also personally need to control the muzzle and be positively aiming downrange.

Definite negligence here. Interested to see what he is charged with.

rojo wrote:

phony al wrote:

mr liberal gun control guy cant practice what he preaches all over about all the gun control and all the liberal stuff canceling the second amendment and those who practice it

Why are people trying to make this some political thing? It's a tragedy. But if you are going to make it political, i this supports his belief in in gun control. As even a prop gun is dangerous.

Your whole city of Baltimore is like one big crime scene. I can see how you’d think that.

Flagpole wrote:

Robson Street . wrote:

Baldwin can't tell what is kind or unkind . His comedy is based on mocking a personality trait of others . He is crying because he is a killer , a reckless person who should be punished for negligence . Those who work in production know he was to safety check the firearm . Watch this cold blooded person lawyer up and focus blame on others .

Wow. Such crap. ALL Presidents are made fun of by comedians and sketch comedy. Bill Clinton, Obama, Jimmy Carter...ALL of them.

Baldwin was involved in a terrible accident. There is no way he is culpable here, and for you to bring up what you think of him as a person shows a huge lack of empathy or humanity on your part. You need some serious self-reflection.

You need to look in the mirror . you just blamed a women who died , for not getting vaccinated . You are a hypocrite .