Shalane is showing us how easy ultra running is

UM is for white people who can't accept they're not really good at running. Their egos are high and yet so fragile. That is why they make an insulated world for themselves. How many ultra runners can even qualify for Olympic marathon trials?

Moo G wrote:

UM is for white people who can't accept they're not really good at running. Their egos are high and yet so fragile. That is why they make an insulated world for themselves. How many ultra runners can even qualify for Olympic marathon trials?

By that logic. How many college track and field athletes eventually qualify for the track/marathon trials at least once in their life? What percent of male marathoners have a PB faster than the women's marathon world record? We could say the same thing about runners who never race farther than 10k or a marathon. Their ego is so high and fragile they don't want to get humiliated and get beat in a 100 mile race by someone who they could run laps around in a 5k. Ego is a bigger problem with running snobs focus on the track than ultra runners. Most ultra runners run ultras for many different reasons and many of which many on here will never understand. Unless you go through the journey and go through the outer reach of your mind, body and spirit and break through the other side of what you think is possible. You'll just never understand. That's the biggest reason for me why I switched to ultras, tried of this rat race feeling of focusing only going faster, I didn't want to go necessarily faster but go through a journey. Which is why I love training (don't necessarily like the word training it's more like a adventure) for trail ultras. Every to I go out to run on the trails and up mountains it's a journey. Put away modern society for a few hours, reconnect with nature and become primal again. Not focusing on this or that, but reconnecting with how our ancestral past of when we were hunters and gathers.

Moo G wrote:

UM is for white people who can't accept they're not really good at running. Their egos are high and yet so fragile. That is why they make an insulated world for themselves. How many ultra runners can even qualify for Olympic marathon trials?

How many of you snobby track runners have ever qualified for a Olympic Marathon?

At the end you are just hobby joggers as well, just a bit faster than the ultra folks.

These pampered track runners aren't even really athletes, they just run around in circles on their manicured platform.

Right, Kara Goucher showed us just how easy it is to transition from roads to trails...

EdisonCityRunner wrote:

I don’t know why people think this is bashing on ultra runners. It’s completely true.

Then why do Letsrunners feel the need to start a thread with exactly the same content every week?

Any distance event without East Africans making up the top echelon is a joke. They have dominated distance running since the 80s. This is why I consider ultras, at present, a joke.

Jim Walmsley ran just under 6 min pace for 24 hours straight. We treat it like some god-like performance but Kipchoge could probably blast that at 5:00 pace.

GodDoesNotExisz wrote:

Any distance event without East Africans making up the top echelon is a joke. They have dominated distance running since the 80s. This is why I consider ultras, at present, a joke.

Jim Walmsley ran just under 6 min pace for 24 hours straight. We treat it like some god-like performance but Kipchoge could probably blast that at 5:00 pace.

Gimme a break. Pampered little Kipchoge would be lost without his pacers and his special little shoes on a nice flat asphalt course with his special little drinks at every aid station. He wouldn't make it 100 yards on a dirt trail without twisting his ankle and crying for his mama.

GodDoesNotExisz wrote:

Any distance event without East Africans making up the top echelon is a joke. They have dominated distance running since the 80s. This is why I consider ultras, at present, a joke.

Jim Walmsley ran just under 6 min pace for 24 hours straight. We treat it like some god-like performance but Kipchoge could probably blast that at 5:00 pace.

The funny thing is that the East Africans runners are not even running the Comrades in South Africa.

Kipchoge would not survive a 100 miler, that's for sure. I probably would beat him too because he would give up long before the 50 mile marker.

Its not worth it financially for an E African to run an ultra. The return on investment is awful why would they? All those miles in training for what? American ultra runners always live well. They dont need prize money to live. Put some real money on the line and see what happens.

Africans dont run for fun, its a deadly serious job. Run and win or starve,

GodDoesNotExisz wrote:

Jim Walmsley ran just under 6 min pace for 24 hours straight. We treat it like some god-like performance but Kipchoge could probably blast that at 5:00 pace.

Neither Jim nor anyone else did any such thing. You really think Eliud could run eleven marathons in a row with no break and average 2:11 for each one?

ultra thon bro wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

lol ultra running is not a punch in the face, it's a kiss on the forehead compared to real distances.

How many ultras have you done? Go sign up for a 24 hour race on a track or run up and down mountains for a 100 miles and come back here and tell us how easy it was.

Do you know what else is hard? Running head first into a wall for 24 hours. Should that be a respected discipline as well? Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's a valid sport. It's just what weak-minded people do when they can't handle the acute pain of a shorter distance.

WinnytheBish wrote:

Makes Paper wrote:

She hasn't done an ultra yet.

Technically she ran over a marathon in all of her attempts, minus the non-marathon 26.20 she ran last week.

Lol. I saw that 26.20 watch picture on Twitter, and it took a bit of discipline to not make a comment like this. Glad someone else caught that too!

Pooing the Winny wrote:

The funny thing is that the East Africans runners are not even running the Comrades in South Africa.

Yes they do. They suck and quit.

WinnytheBish wrote:

ultra thon bro wrote:

How many ultras have you done? Go sign up for a 24 hour race on a track or run up and down mountains for a 100 miles and come back here and tell us how easy it was.

Do you know what else is hard? Running head first into a wall for 24 hours. Should that be a respected discipline as well? Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's a valid sport. It's just what weak-minded people do when they can't handle the acute pain of a shorter distance.

Winny, you sound like a miserable miserable person. Live and let live and go get a life.

Kipchoge and Berkele are bums - they would get smoked by the elite sprinters. Bolt is also a bum because he would get smoked at the marathon by the East Africans.

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Kipchoge is going to do some sort of ultra before he's done, and it's all over for ultra elitism at that point.

I only hope it's something in the US, or that UTMB thing, rather than Comrades. If he runs Western States or something, and takes two hours off the record, we'll never see another lumbering WS again.

I don't agree with this. Kipchoge is soooo good at the marathon that there is almost no way he is as good at ultra's. He is also going to do marathons as long as he is able to compete at the highest level then will only move to ultra's when he is no longer at the top of the marathoning scene - so he'll be past his prime running days by that point.

Still agree with the premise that the top marathoners in general are better than the top ultra runners but we shouldn't assume it will directly translate in each case (for example, I think CJ Albertson could be Kipchoge in an ultra despite being a worse marathoner).

captain dan wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Do you know what else is hard? Running head first into a wall for 24 hours. Should that be a respected discipline as well? Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's a valid sport. It's just what weak-minded people do when they can't handle the acute pain of a shorter distance.

Winny, you sound like a miserable miserable person. Live and let live and go get a life.

Wow man so enlightening, did you come up with that "love, laugh, love" mantra on one of your pot smoking breaks while cantering through a single track? What sounds truly miserable is stopping every 25 minutes to "fuel" and take a panoramic of a redwood but more power to you.

WinnytheBish wrote:

ultra thon bro wrote:

How many ultras have you done? Go sign up for a 24 hour race on a track or run up and down mountains for a 100 miles and come back here and tell us how easy it was.

Do you know what else is hard? Running head first into a wall for 24 hours. Should that be a respected discipline as well? Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's a valid sport. It's just what weak-minded people do when they can't handle the acute pain of a shorter distance.

Bro, who hurt you as a child? Ultras are as valid of a sport as any other foot race. Racing from point A to point B, first one over the line wins. How is this comparable to self harm of hitting your head against a wall for 24 hours. Sorry bro that ultra runners make you feel insecure for whatever reason. Did one beat you recently at your local 5k or something?