I hate to see this happen to Vermont

troll_69 wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

For once I would like someone to acknowledge the damage done to the economy, future economic prospects, education of the young, individual self-worth, and the balance that should exist in a society, versus this over-the-top ultra-liberal reaction over the past 18 months.

Places that were supposed "bastions" of freedom during the pandemic (remember Sweden) had similar, if not worse, economic outcomes than neighbouring countries which implemented stricter restrictions.

Notably, Vermont has a Republican governor.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

Places that were supposed "bastions" of freedom during the pandemic (remember Sweden) had similar, if not worse, economic outcomes than neighbouring countries which implemented stricter restrictions.

Notably, Vermont has a Republican governor.

It's like every post he makes is somehow worse than the previous, despite starting with an original post that literally proved the opposite of the point he was trying to make.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1444002637158838272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1444002637158838272%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fcovid-19%2Fnot-supposed-happen-us-state-highest-vaxx-rate-sees-record-surge-covid-cases

The unvaccinated are 30 percent of Maine's population, yet constitute 70+ percent of hospitalizations.

'McDermott said the resistance to vaccination in Piscataquis County, a place with broad conservative politics, has been deeply frustrating.

At the county fair in late August, he said, two people who had been diagnosed with COVID at the emergency room only a day or two earlier were spotted mingling among people without masks.

“They defied the quarantine recommendation and went to the fair,” said McDermott, who chose not to attend because of the risk of transmission. “We believe the fair was a driver.”'

Typical antivaxxer behaviour

Yes it is damaging to spend time shut down. Far-right disinformation is divisive and encouraged half-assing the response to covid. But if you pull together for the common good you can re-open sooner.

surveysays wrote:

It's like every post he makes is somehow worse than the previous, despite starting with an original post that literally proved the opposite of the point he was trying to make.

It has to be on purpose. Nobody is this dim.

Well played, Iggy. You got us.

9/10

Dear imbecile,

I am bookmarking this thread so I can bump it in a few weeks and rub you nose in it. You see, that is how you teach low IQ goobers like you things. You rub their nose in it.

See you in a few weeks!

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

Places that were supposed "bastions" of freedom during the pandemic (remember Sweden) had similar, if not worse, economic outcomes than neighbouring countries which implemented stricter restrictions.

Notably, Vermont has a Republican governor.

There were a lot of states led by Republican governors that were pretty aggressive about Covid. Not just Vermont, but Massachusetts, Maryland, Ohio. Even West Virginia's Republican governor has been pushing vaccines lately, and the governor of Alabama famously said that it was "the unvaccinated folk that are letting us down." Trump was vaccinated even after getting Covid; McConnell and Lindsey Graham have both been pro-vaccine.

The idea that trying to limit the damage, both physical and economic, from Covid and get through the pandemic as quickly as possible was never an "ultra-liberal" thing.

Vermont has been literally the safest state in the union, in terms of per capita deaths.

99% of the point vaccines is to turn Covid 19 into nothing more than the flu.

The high vax rate in VT has proven that thesis correct, as the number of cases grows but the number of deaths doesn't.

The VT experience has been a long lesson in 'listen to the experts and do what they say'

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Strange that the Libs have no problem with Dr. Fauci even though he was instrumental in funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

What does that have to do with anything? That is such a transparent and pathetic attempt at deflection in your own thread, a thread which has blown up in your face. Why not address the actual rebuttals to your original premise?

All you seem to have is a continuous stream of logical fallacies and nonsense. Every post you make is hopelessly politicized. You are part of the problem. When I picture you, it is a sad old man sitting in front of a screen imbibing a continuous stream of garbage. I’m glad you at least use a consistent username, but you have got to be one of the worst posters on letsrun that isn’t just trolling.

It is good for people like you to have me around. Most of your ilk, perhaps not you, loves the pandemic. Stay at home, be sloppy, get government handouts, while at the same time beat your chest that the way you live is better. You're saving the country from the Pandemic.

A real scientist wrote:

Dear imbecile,

I am bookmarking this thread so I can bump it in a few weeks and rub you nose in it. You see, that is how you teach low IQ goobers like you things. You rub their nose in it.

See you in a few weeks!

What are you going to rub my nose in? People getting fat during the lock downs, economy in horrible shape, inflation rising, more people on government subsistence, more people that don't want to work, while the education of our children is being neglected. Go ahead, rub my nose in it. lol

The testosterone is making yourmillenial brain and balls shrink. Neither are doing your sorry running any good. lol

Peter Gandhi wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.

Since you brought up Maine:

“I was on a call with leadership of hospitals across the state of Maine, and one by one, they all recounted how in their facilities their COVID units are filled with unvaccinated patients,” said Shah. “And their ICUs are filled almost uniformly with unvaccinated patients.”

https://www.wabi.tv/2021/09/08/maine-hospitals-filled-with-unvaccinated-patients/

They may be filled with unvaccinated OBESE people, however, the root of the problem are the vaccinated. Those with the Phizer version of the experiment are 300% more likely to get Covid….

So the vaccinated are getting it in large numbers and spreading it to otherwise innocent folks. Then you blame the victim. Classic liberal ideology.

Noyankee wrote:

Peter Gandhi wrote:

Since you brought up Maine:

“I was on a call with leadership of hospitals across the state of Maine, and one by one, they all recounted how in their facilities their COVID units are filled with unvaccinated patients,” said Shah. “And their ICUs are filled almost uniformly with unvaccinated patients.”

https://www.wabi.tv/2021/09/08/maine-hospitals-filled-with-unvaccinated-patients/

They may be filled with unvaccinated OBESE people, however, the root of the problem are the vaccinated. Those with the Phizer version of the experiment are 300% more likely to get Covid….

So the vaccinated are getting it in large numbers and spreading it to otherwise innocent folks. Then you blame the victim. Classic liberal ideology.

This is absolute bullsh*t.

"Compared to people who were not vaccinated, people who were vaccinated were five times less likely to develop COVID-19. They were 10 times less likely to be hospitalized and die from the disease."

"People who are vaccinated against Covid-19 are less likely to spread the virus even if they become infected, a new study finds, adding to a growing body of evidence that vaccines can reduce transmission of the delta variant."

Bump for the post that pointed out how moronic this thread attempt was from the OP.

My brother received the second Moderna vaccine and shortly contracted a respiratory infection. Never got better and died a month later. He died at home days before his 75th birthday. Yes he had some co-morbidities, but generally fitter than most Americans. Did the vaccine contribute to his death? We will never know since there was no autopsy or concern for a possible link. Death certificate said he died of heart disease.

Still, I am not anti-vaccine. But I believe this whole episode has been handled horribly. And to think Dr. Fauci still has some role seems to me like were living in a fantasy world.

Get out from under the bridge, and fir god’s sake put your mask back on. 😷

Once again, not an argument. You’re 70 some years old, for god’s sake. Show some self-respect.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I can’t refute anything from Real Obvi’s post that embarrassed me so I’ll avoid it entirely - please don’t mention it! 😭😭