I hate to see this happen to Vermont

Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:

Harambe wrote:

ITT: crickets

Until it comes from a different IP address than yours, it's of no interest to me.

I thought the substance of the argument, not the person delivering it, is what matters. Very puerile approach to debate; I would be concerned if that is how you inform yourself

The Delta variant is so infectious that it does not take a very large percentage of the population to be unvaccinated for their to be a significant surge in cases that overwhelms health systems. And it demonstrate with perfect clarity how all the cries from anti-vaxxers about "freedom" are really about a "freedom" that begins with me and end with you. No one has the right to cause hospitals to fill up with COVID patients causing dangerous and even deadly interruptions in care for everyone else.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Peter Gandhi wrote:

Funny post.

Now tell us what's going on in West Virginia, Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama and Montana.

And for all those people in the ICUs in Maine, MA and CT, how many were vaccinated and how many were unvaccinated?

I can’t speak for the other states you listed, but Idaho numbers are on the way down. I am not against the vaccine, but clearly there are some unknowns on its effectiveness, risks, and connection to the spread. I suspect that spread will increase in states that reopened later as well as seasonal influences.

What does it tell you if Idaho being “way down” is still multiples above the states you mentioned?

Self-own thread of the day.

Strange that the Libs have no problem with Dr. Fauci even though he was instrumental in funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:

Harambe wrote:

ITT: crickets

Until it comes from a different IP address than yours, it's of no interest to me.

Or, to put it another way:

the beagle wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I can’t speak for the other states you listed, but Idaho numbers are on the way down. I am not against the vaccine, but clearly there are some unknowns on its effectiveness, risks, and connection to the spread. I suspect that spread will increase in states that reopened later as well as seasonal influences.

What does it tell you if Idaho being “way down” is still multiples above the states you mentioned?

Self-own thread of the day.

Deaths per million higher than Idaho in New Jersey, New York, and California. Idaho economy better than those three states.

You self own your post.

😷

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Strange that the Libs have no problem with Dr. Fauci even though he was instrumental in funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

I'd change the subject too if the thread was going the way it's going for you.

Peter Gandhi wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Strange that the Libs have no problem with Dr. Fauci even though he was instrumental in funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

I'd change the subject too if the thread was going the way it's going for you.

Exactly. Deflection from embarrassment.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Strange that the Libs have no problem with Dr. Fauci even though he was instrumental in funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Self-owner shifts goalposts all the way from Vermont to China.

That just might be a new distance record, folks!

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

the beagle wrote:

What does it tell you if Idaho being “way down” is still multiples above the states you mentioned?

Self-own thread of the day.

Deaths per million higher than Idaho in New Jersey, New York, and California. Idaho economy better than those three states.

You self own your post.

😷

Where did I mention any of those states Iggy? Are you incapable of even reading now? Why change the subject?

Oh wait, I know why. Self-own thread of the day.

the beagle wrote:

Peter Gandhi wrote:

I'd change the subject too if the thread was going the way it's going for you.

Exactly. Deflection from embarrassment.

Exactly, because you have no answer. And you put yourself forward as so concerned about the welfare of others. Your just another compromised liberal fake.

as per usual wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Strange that the Libs have no problem with Dr. Fauci even though he was instrumental in funding gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Self-owner shifts goalposts all the way from Vermont to China.

That just might be a new distance record, folks!

You hate to see it…

troll_69 wrote:

Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:

Until it comes from a different IP address than yours, it's of no interest to me.

I thought the substance of the argument, not the person delivering it, is what matters. Very puerile approach to debate; I would be concerned if that is how you inform yourself

I've found that ignoring the mentally ill is a great way to stay sane. For example, the mentally ill keep acting like not getting vaccinated is a death sentence, but I'm still living large.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

the beagle wrote:

Exactly. Deflection from embarrassment.

Exactly, because you have no answer. And you put yourself forward as so concerned about the welfare of others. Your just another compromised liberal fake.

Deflection. Projection. Rejection. The Iggy trifecta.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

. . . I am not against the vaccine, but clearly there are some unknowns on its effectiveness, risks, and connection to the spread. . .

Just once I'd like for someone making this argument to acknowledge that there are "unknowns" associated with contracting Covid and that the "knowns" are orders of magnitude worse than those of the vaccine.

The vaccine isn't a silver bullet, but may be a thalidomide-like bullet.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

. . . I am not against the vaccine, but clearly there are some unknowns on its effectiveness, risks, and connection to the spread. . .

Just once I'd like for someone making this argument to acknowledge that there are "unknowns" associated with contracting Covid and that the "knowns" are orders of magnitude worse than those of the vaccine.

For once I would like someone to acknowledge the damage done to the economy, future economic prospects, education of the young, individual self-worth, and the balance that should exist in a society, versus this over-the-top ultra-liberal reaction over the past 18 months.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

Just once I'd like for someone making this argument to acknowledge that there are "unknowns" associated with contracting Covid and that the "knowns" are orders of magnitude worse than those of the vaccine.

For once I would like someone to acknowledge the damage done to the economy, future economic prospects, education of the young, individual self-worth, and the balance that should exist in a society, versus this over-the-top ultra-liberal reaction over the past 18 months.

Ultra-liberal reaction? You seem to be viewing this entirely through the lens of US politics. It was conservative prime ministers in Italy and Australia that approved strict lockdowns in those countries. Sweden, a country know for progressive policies did not impose any lockdowns. The country in SE Asia with the strictest lockdowns was probably the Philippines. Do you consider Duterte a liberal?

Covid was a global pandemic and I don't really see that any particular strategy could be classified as "ultra-liberal" or any other political orientation.