Anyone have any insight in his training? Hands down the most versatile athlete at the moment. Jakob is right in there too but Stewy is more impressive in my opinion.
Thanks in advance! Please forward any threads if they’ve been created already.
Anyone have any insight in his training? Hands down the most versatile athlete at the moment. Jakob is right in there too but Stewy is more impressive in my opinion.
Thanks in advance! Please forward any threads if they’ve been created already.
Stewy > Yakob
Search for Nic Bideau training. That is his coach
Stewy is my hero, he races like a beast. I found this article a while back, kind of insightful.
https://athleticsweekly.com/performance/training/how-they-train-stewart-mcsweyn-1039944422/
He’s studying to become a teacher. According to Letsrun he’s a loser. Look at how Donald Trump trains. He’s a very very rich man. It’s hard sitting in an office all day, drinking Diet Coke, and dreaming of Twitter rambles. Teachers have it easy peasy.
SanDiegorunner wrote:
Anyone have any insight in his training? Hands down the most versatile athlete at the moment. Jakob is right in there too but Stewy is more impressive in my opinion.
Thanks in advance! Please forward any threads if they’ve been created already.
To be honest, I wish he did more speed training, but Nic Bideau has stated that "it is not important for him".
Given that, it limits his racing to 'be like a beast' as others say. Not because he wants to, but he has to. Jakob will beat him over anything between 800 and 10km, because he is too one paced.
Least variation in 100m splits across OG, bottom three in pace first 100m, lower half of pace in last 100m. Same at DL meetings.
It is not a 'hatred' of the guy. I like his effort, but without speed he becomes the one paced unplanned pacing bunny to the rest, as has been proven.
The speed and style go hand in hand, improving the one is necessary to improve the other. Needs stronger glutes, needs more backside to be honest
How can he be more impressive than someone who always beats him?
SanDiegorunner wrote:
Anyone have any insight in his training? Hands down the most versatile athlete at the moment. Jakob is right in there too but Stewy is more impressive in my opinion.
Thanks in advance! Please forward any threads if they’ve been created already.
Most versatile? He is a 3:29.51 1500m man, excellent. 13:05.23 5000m, very good, an opera clap for McSweyn's 5000m. He has no speed. I could find random guys in Walmart or Target who could out sprint McSweyn in 200m dash. The most versatile athlete today is Emmanuel Korir. Do you understand how rare it is to be elite at both 400m AND 800m? Many 1500m guys and longer events who log 100 miles plus per week are good at 3000m to 1/2 Marathon also. We can name so many men over the past 110 or so years who were good 1500m to 1/2 Marathon runners. No surprise if another twenty-something year old lad is also good at a few events 1500m to 1/2 Marathon. Four-hundred metres and 800m, that is something special.
Love that he ran the Great North half marathon 60 hours after the Diamond League 1500m final. Baller. Big fan.
Relaxed Running Podcast has a few interviews with him where they go over training in some nice detail. Seems like a good guy
[quote]Moby wrote:
Great post!
Not a lot of rocket science here. Workouts that cover the essential components needed to be successful...at ANY level. All you need to do is dial down the mileage and intensity. There are a million workouts to choose from. Pick a few and have fun.
One key element that Nic addresses, which seems to be a point of contention among the "New" generation of inexperienced coaches who have little actual elite running experience is that of managing the athlete's mental fitness. In order to be a successful coach, you must have a basic understanding of actual elite running experience, aka "Been there done that", in order to successfully communicate and or "coach" that to the athlete. Once the athlete "buys into" your coaching philosophy the results are amazing, and the ONLY way an athlete will "buy in" is that they know who the messenger is and that they trust what is being asked of them to do in training and racing is coming from someone who actually experienced it. There's a lot of banter on these message boards about "coaching experience" compared to "running experience". Unless you've walked the walk, you can't successfully preach about it.
Aouita 84 wrote:
[quote]Moby wrote:
https://beaconhillstriders.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/M-L-Distance-Training-Nic-Bideau.pdf[/quoteOne key element that Nic addresses, which seems to be a point of contention among the "New" generation of inexperienced coaches who have little actual elite running experience is that of managing the athlete's mental fitness. In order to be a successful coach, you must have a basic understanding of actual elite running experience, aka "Been there done that", in order to successfully communicate and or "coach" that to the athlete.
That's kind of bullshyte. Gags and Vigil, were not runners. Vigil was a linebacker. Jack Daniels was a pentathlete. Mark Wetmore was a pretty average runner.
Neither Peter Coe nor Gjert Ingebrigtsen had or has running experience. Yet each coached one or more sons to an elite level or higher. You are wrong.
Nic was slower than a lot of women he now coaches. Maybe ran at a university level in Australia.
STEM field wrote:
Aouita 84 wrote:
[quote]Moby wrote:
https://beaconhillstriders.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/M-L-Distance-Training-Nic-Bideau.pdf[/quoteOne key element that Nic addresses, which seems to be a point of contention among the "New" generation of inexperienced coaches who have little actual elite running experience is that of managing the athlete's mental fitness. In order to be a successful coach, you must have a basic understanding of actual elite running experience, aka "Been there done that", in order to successfully communicate and or "coach" that to the athlete.
That's kind of bullshyte. Gags and Vigil, were not runners. Vigil was a linebacker. Jack Daniels was a pentathlete. Mark Wetmore was a pretty average runner.
Add Jumbo Elliott and Bowerman to that list.
jumbo too wrote:
STEM field wrote:
That's kind of bullshyte. Gags and Vigil, were not runners. Vigil was a linebacker. Jack Daniels was a pentathlete. Mark Wetmore was a pretty average runner.
Add Jumbo Elliott and Bowerman to that list.
And Brother Colm. Gerschler, Igloi, Most of the top coaches weren’t top runners.
Orcas wrote:
Moby wrote:
https://beaconhillstriders.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/M-L-Distance-Training-Nic-Bideau.pdfThank you!
Interesting to read about Farah basically being a pacer for Mottram in that 3x1600 workout. There goes the theory that doorbell mo “never trained like a professional” to explain his sudden jump in abilities at an advanced age.
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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