Per an Instagram story, not sure I can link.
Seriously is this part of the reason BTC athletes get injured all the time - just not durable enough through lack of proper strength training? Not high enough loads in the gym and too much mileage sounds like a bad combo. Weaker tendons subjected to increased repetitive loads.
bosshardtc wrote:
Per an Instagram story, not sure I can link.
Seriously is this part of the reason BTC athletes get injured all the time - just not durable enough through lack of proper strength training? Not high enough loads in the gym and too much mileage sounds like a bad combo. Weaker tendons subjected to increased repetitive loads.
BTC is in the gym five days a week. They do upper body, band and core work on three easy days each week. They do lower body lifting on two of their hard days each week.
ewoifwoerg wrote:
bosshardtc wrote:
Per an Instagram story, not sure I can link.
Seriously is this part of the reason BTC athletes get injured all the time - just not durable enough through lack of proper strength training? Not high enough loads in the gym and too much mileage sounds like a bad combo. Weaker tendons subjected to increased repetitive loads.
BTC is in the gym five days a week. They do upper body, band and core work on three easy days each week. They do lower body lifting on two of their hard days each week.
Ah, so they do lots of pointless stuff that doesn’t benefit their running, yet still taxes their bodies.
Salazar was getting his athletes to go heavy, Grace is implying this is what she’s doing with Bosshard, there must be some sort of difference to btc?
bosshardtc wrote:
Per an Instagram story, not sure I can link.
Seriously is this part of the reason BTC athletes get injured all the time - just not durable enough through lack of proper strength training? Not high enough loads in the gym and too much mileage sounds like a bad combo. Weaker tendons subjected to increased repetitive loads.
Alan Webb did lots of lifting in his 3:46 mile year.
Kate Grace has to be using some of her mom’s anti-aging formulas.
matt londinium wrote:
ewoifwoerg wrote:
BTC is in the gym five days a week. They do upper body, band and core work on three easy days each week. They do lower body lifting on two of their hard days each week.
Ah, so they do lots of pointless stuff that doesn’t benefit their running, yet still taxes their bodies.
Salazar was getting his athletes to go heavy, Grace is implying this is what she’s doing with Bosshard, there must be some sort of difference to btc?
If you talked to Sal, he was getting away from lifting a bit toward the end of his run. I would say the real reason grace had such a good year is because she trained well and consistently, maybe it was the added weight training or maybe it was just the right amount of running etc.. One will never know. Did all the Boss group have a breakout year? Did all the BTC fall apart?
Her improvement of making the Olympic team in 2016 while sponsored by Oiselle to not making it in 2021 with the backing of Nike?!
All these wow Kate Grace is awesome threads are a head scratcher too. Who cares someone winning races that no one is running as they're all focused on the Olympics.
Maybe it's the shoes.....
BTC built the foundation . Kate was flat and missed the peak on priority 1 . Making the Olympic team . This is on poor coaching . Kate will be with the new group Pete is putting together so she won’t have to listen Cory talk about her dry hair.
Kate doesn't do traditional weight lifting which is why she stays healthy. Hasay on the other hand...
the Coach from Juno wrote:
BTC built the foundation . Kate was flat and missed the peak on priority 1 . Making the Olympic team . This is on poor coaching . Kate will be with the new group Pete is putting together so she won’t have to listen Cory talk about her dry hair.
Those praising Kate Grace for her decent racing on cool summer nights in northern European cities are stating too much. I wouldn't blame coaching for Kate Grace not making Olympic team as an 800m runner. It was about 100F the day of trials final. Older athletes do not do as well in extreme heat. No coaching can change that. The three best U.S. 800m women went to Olympics.
thsjdjdjdjd wrote:
All these wow Kate Grace is awesome threads are a head scratcher too. Who cares someone winning races that no one is running as they're all focused on the Olympics.
I don't get it either. Michaela Meyer came a heck of a lot closer to making the Olympic team than Grace did. Meyer makes it above Ajee Wilson if she had merely understood the possibility at the top of the stretch. By the time she figured it out she kicked just slightly too late.
Grace had an outside lane at trials and wasn't aggressive enough, which is the norm for American middle distance. She got beat to the corner then spent the majority of the race well out into lane two.
600yd/600m man wrote:
the Coach from Juno wrote:
BTC built the foundation . Kate was flat and missed the peak on priority 1 . Making the Olympic team . This is on poor coaching . Kate will be with the new group Pete is putting together so she won’t have to listen Cory talk about her dry hair.
Those praising Kate Grace for her decent racing on cool summer nights in northern European cities are stating too much. I wouldn't blame coaching for Kate Grace not making Olympic team as an 800m runner. It was about 100F the day of trials final. Older athletes do not do as well in extreme heat. No coaching can change that. The three best U.S. 800m women went to Olympics.
I don't think Ajee Wilson was at her best this year and our best representative at the Olympics.
This thread has derailed.
If Graces improvement is due to better strength training/coaching, it’s a sign Jerry shouldn’t be coaching 800/1500m runners. (Shelby a 1500/5000m runner)
This thread has derailed.
If Graces improvement is due to better strength training/coaching, it’s a sign Jerry shouldn’t be coaching 800/1500m runners. (Shelby a 1500/5000m runner)
This thread has derailed.
If Graces improvement is due to better strength training/coaching, it’s a sign Jerry shouldn’t be coaching 800/1500m runners. (Shelby a 1500/5000m runner)
Awsi Dooger wrote:
thsjdjdjdjd wrote:
All these wow Kate Grace is awesome threads are a head scratcher too. Who cares someone winning races that no one is running as they're all focused on the Olympics.
I don't get it either. Michaela Meyer came a heck of a lot closer to making the Olympic team than Grace did. Meyer makes it above Ajee Wilson if she had merely understood the possibility at the top of the stretch. By the time she figured it out she kicked just slightly too late.
Grace had an outside lane at trials and wasn't aggressive enough, which is the norm for American middle distance. She got beat to the corner then spent the majority of the race well out into lane two.
Regardless of how she did in the trials she deserves praise for her DL performances. No small feat to run those times so consistently. Sure it wasn’t Olympic final competition every race but still strong competition nonetheless. I wish she had won in Zurich so she could guarantee her WC spot next year. Was so close. Hopefully she will be better prepared for rounds this time.
Cory has dry hair?
Reality post wrote:
600yd/600m man wrote:
Those praising Kate Grace for her decent racing on cool summer nights in northern European cities are stating too much. I wouldn't blame coaching for Kate Grace not making Olympic team as an 800m runner. It was about 100F the day of trials final. Older athletes do not do as well in extreme heat. No coaching can change that. The three best U.S. 800m women went to Olympics.
I don't think Ajee Wilson was at her best this year and our best representative at the Olympics.
It does not matter what you think about A. Wilson. Kate Grace fans do not get to put K. Grace on Olympic team because she raced well in Europe this summer.
Grace just PR’d ftw in Berlin. 4:01.33 1500m - this now makes her btc club spell just totally bizarre.
beeline wrote:
Grace just PR’d ftw in Berlin. 4:01.33 1500m - this now makes her btc club spell just totally bizarre.
Wow.
thsjdjdjdjd wrote:
Her improvement of making the Olympic team in 2016 while sponsored by Oiselle to not making it in 2021 with the backing of Nike?!
All these wow Kate Grace is awesome threads are a head scratcher too. Who cares someone winning races that no one is running as they're all focused on the Olympics.
Maybe it's the shoes.....
QFE.
Grace wasn't often racing against the best this summer. The best were focused on the Olympics. When she did race the top athletes she wasn't beating them (Monaco & Pre are two examples).
The shoes certainly play a factor as well so talk her new PRs this summer with a grain of salt.
That being said, another poster commented that Jerry cannot coach the 800m. This is certainly true. He has had some of his athletes run solid 800's but that they usually came from 15/5 runners that had good speed to begin with (Shelby, Sinclair, Centro). 800m runners need to race more frequently. On top of not being a good 800m coach, Jerry's system of not racing makes things worse.
To bring this post back on topic, I don't think Kate's weight training was necessarily the biggest impact on her performances this year. It seems like having 800m focused training and racing more if what lead to her success.