Cancel it.
Cancel it.
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Not going to do it!
They just won't get my dough!
I'll sign up with a another marathon!
Jogger262 wrote:
I’m kind of on your side here, but all you need is a negative test OR a vaccine. It is common sense.
The hypocrisy on both extremes is crazy. Bands can require vaccinated only at concerts for the left. Bakeries shouldn’t have to bake a cake for gay weddings on the right.
I think a business should be allowed to serve or not serve as they please. If the rule is unreasonable they will go out of business.
Is that actually the same thing or is a public health concern different from displaying prejudice?
The Unkle, your "facts" are wrong. If someone had had prior infection with alpha strain, their antibodies give slim protection against delta strain. Those recovered from delta have some protection against delta reinfection, but it is unclear if this as good or as sustained as those vaccinated with mRNA vaccines. Also, when a physician orders Covid antibody testing, it needs to be clearly specified which antibodies. Some tests shows only prior infection, some response to a vaccine. Since T-lymphocytes play a role in protection, measuring antibody titers alone does not guarantee immunity.
This IS about public health, and I applaud the BAA.
I am a board certified infectious disease physician. What are your credentials? You seem be an anti-Vaxxer.
Sounds fair to have the negative test instead of just just a vaxpass, but do you need a negative HIV test to attend? Do you need a negative TB test?
Stop testing the asymptomatic.
No to both.
old news bro wrote:
I broke that news like 3 weeks ago and the thread got buried fast. Wondered what’s changed where you guys pretend you’re interested now.
What if a spectator sneezes on a runner mid race. For maximum security, implement testing mid-race. High five the Westley crowd and get a rapid test at heartbreak hill. Another test at BC.You can not be too safe. Let’s get back to normal. Testing every 5 miles.
Sigh... HIV requires intimate contact for transmission. A positive "TB test" such as a PPD skin test or Quantiferon gold blood test implies exposure to TB, and nothing about contagiousness. So screening for these is not analogous to screening for Sars-cov-2 as
asymptomatic Sars-Cov-2 viral infection is highly contagious. Testing asymptomatic persons is an appropriate public health measure. in this circumstance, which is why many businesses and schools are mandating it. If you don't want to be vaccinated or tested avoid contact with others. Vaccine refusal is not just a personal issue as those who become infected are a hazard to others, especially the immunocompromised, elderly etc. So my advice to still slippery slopish is don't run the BAA Marathon.
Will they have the same requirement for volunteers? Water stations?
vonderlasa wrote:
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If you don't want to be vaccinated or tested avoid contact with others.
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Who said I wasn’t vaccinated? I’m fully vaxxed with all the current sterilizing vaccines in existence. You can be against the mandates and be vaccinated. Many agree.
still slippery slopish wrote:
Will they have the same requirement for volunteers? Water stations?
Yes, see paragraph 4 here:
https://www.baa.org/2021-updatesJogger262 wrote:
I’m kind of on your side here, but all you need is a negative test OR a vaccine. It is common sense.
The hypocrisy on both extremes is crazy. Bands can require vaccinated only at concerts for the left. Bakeries shouldn’t have to bake a cake for gay weddings on the right.
I think a business should be allowed to serve or not serve as they please. If the rule is unreasonable they will go out of business.
You want people to be able to return to the days of “whites only”? Not a good idea.
vonderlasa wrote:
The Unkle, your "facts" are wrong. If someone had had prior infection with alpha strain, their antibodies give slim protection against delta strain. Those recovered from delta have some protection against delta reinfection, but it is unclear if this as good or as sustained as those vaccinated with mRNA vaccines. Also, when a physician orders Covid antibody testing, it needs to be clearly specified which antibodies. Some tests shows only prior infection, some response to a vaccine. Since T-lymphocytes play a role in protection, measuring antibody titers alone does not guarantee immunity.
This IS about public health, and I applaud the BAA.
I am a board certified infectious disease physician. What are your credentials? You seem be an anti-Vaxxer.
Don't be confusing Unkle with the truth.Be will copy 10 YouTube videos here just to bore you to death.
Jogger262 wrote:
The hypocrisy on both extremes is crazy. Bands can require vaccinated only at concerts for the left. Bakeries shouldn’t have to bake a cake for gay weddings on the right.
This is maybe the dumbest take I've ever heard in my life.
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Shouldn’t they just require a negative test for everyone, vaccinated or not? Vaccinated people can get and spread the disease (I know several now who have, particularly those who had Pfizer). So it doesn’t make much sense to exempt vaccinated people from testing if they are truly attempting to reduce spread.
A lot of things about Covid 19 has been in ‘seems to be’ territory. From beginning to current it’s a moving target and we don’t have a firm handle on origination, and even the pcr test is being dropped. Also companies are promoting what “seems to be” vaccines but are technically foreign substance injections. Social media has crushed any debate with highly credentialed scholars and so that alone makes me very suspicious. Public health is about trying to prove yourself wrong and siding with the facts, which I have not observed nor would a true unicorn object. I’m really rooting for BAA to be right but I have strong doubts.
still slippery slopish wrote:
Sounds fair to have the negative test instead of just just a vaxpass, but do you need a negative HIV test to attend? Do you need a negative TB test?
Stop testing the asymptomatic.
No to both.
seriously, you really don't know the difference of how covid spreads vs HIV or TB?