Capitalism is the best system for everyone.
Capitalism is the best system for everyone.
Liberal grievance thread of the day.
cramister wrote:
Solinsky worked at a lumber mill or something in High school over the summer
And Al Sal worked in construction the year he won NCAA XC
Pretty sure that was Rudy Chapa and not Salazar that worked construction during a summer.
It’s whatever. When high school teams evolve from organic to sprawling youth programs, high-profile transfers and college-like camps and athletic programs it’s not the same. Does anyone look at the top hs basketball teams (Oak Hill, Sierra Canyon) and ogle over the super teams? No it’s expected as should be teams like Newbury Park. If they don’t have an assembly line of sub-9 guys they’re doing something wrong. Nothing wrong with it but the “omg they’re so loaded” threads don’t reflect that this isn’t a regular high school track team.
CLBdropping wrote:
Can we all just take the time to realize that it isn’t all about talent? These kids are the most privileged high school athletes of all day. Summer camps away for a month, flying to meets year round, NXR, NXN. No wonder they’re so good.
All these things sound like fun, but I don't see how they would make a person an appreciably better runner. Summer camp sounds like a blast, but is an XX mile week at summer camp worth more in training benefit than the same XX mile week run from my own front door? Traveling for meets creates a good opportunity to showcase your abilities, but it doesn't improve your abilities.
I was a 2 minute 800m/16 min XC guy in high school. If I had gone to summer camp and flown all around to meets, I would have been...a 2 minute 800m/16 min XC guy with a slightly more fun high school running experience.
I don’t care how rich my parents are, they don’t love running enough to do that all for me. These kids parents must give so much of a crap about this sport bc I know many wealthier parents who just wouldn’t do this to their kid bc they want them doing other practical stuff
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Oh JFC get over yourself.
No these kids don’t have summer jobs. Why would they? Their parents worked hard and make good money so their kids don’t have to work stupid minimum wage jobs over the summer.
These kids are dedicated and working their @$$’s off over the summer to be the best they can be in an elite program in hopes they can run in college.
But yeah, I’m sure they’d be better off slumming is at Dairy Queen or Kroger over the summer and “learning life skills “ lol gtfo
If you don’t work a low-paying job in high school, your parents are doing you a disservice.
Had a few friends like this in college. They had never worked a day in their life before graduation. Just given allowances. Known in the friend group for their privilege/general laziness.
Safe to say their resumes/skills were significantly worse than those who had worked in high school/college.
I have never hired anyone who listed a minimum wage job on their resume.
I'd love to see the data on the overlap between this board and Bogleheads. You can always spot a Boglehead by how much handwringing they do over their children's material position in life. "We wouldn't want our son to not have the nicest prom night ever, they'll remember it for the rest of their lives. Cut the check DH."
For all you Bogleheads, I went to school with your children, they do tend to do well materially since you plopped them right into the upper quartile in median income by paying for SAT classes, frats/sororities, and state U, but they end up soooo soft. Truly gutless with almost no executive function.
So how's Newbury Park at sprints, jumps, and throws?
Newbury Park football went 3-7 in 2019 and 1-4 in 2020. Money doesn't buy wins in that program.
And, last season Newbury Park boys' soccer went 1-7-4. So, money not buying too much success there either.
Maybe, all of the athletes are distance running instead. At most schools, XC and T&F are not prestige sports. Perhaps the culture is different at Newbury Park.
Yes, they're privileged but the coaches brought all that money into the program, which was absolutely nothing before them.
You ran 2:00/16 XC but if you'd been at this Newbury Park program, you'd have run 1:54/4:04/14:25.
Words of wisdom take advantage of your situation nothing wrong with being privileged
I didn’t read every post so someone may have mentioned this but you can’t have it both ways… you are saying np kids are good because they have everything; tons of other people are saying lots of African runners are good because they have nothing and it’s their only chance out… we have to decide that it’s one or the other or decide that some people are talented and others are not!
I would wager that a kid that CAN run a 3.5x high mile will be really good whether he is rich or poor, some circumstances may make him a 4.0x kid or a 3.5x low kid but his talent is the driving force.
People spoiled by privilege do not become great distance runners.
Or great boxers.
joe runs wrote:
I have never hired anyone who listed a minimum wage job on their resume.
Did you ever hire anyone?
Molly Seidel did.
I estimate that I have hired 150 new employees.
well there is something to it because FM is also a district of rich parents who are willing to give up a lot for their kids to fully commit to HS cross country. Saratoga is also a wealthy district. It does take a coach salesman to sell to these parents the level of commitment necessary and a coach willing to treat HS sports like a college program. And when a coach does that, they will win. Notice all these "elite" coaches don't go into an inner city program and dominate.
More power to them and to Sean Brosnan
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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