tri hard wrote:BTW, whatever became of that bikie who selfied on youtube with a 13:10 road 5K time trial in his local park? Is he now dominating the pro track circuit?
He just won gold in the Mountain Biking
His 5k time wasn't real though. GPS errors all over the place.
te5n1k wrote:
he def doesnt look as fit as someone like yee, luis, iden or pearson.
Blummenfelt looks about as fit as he can be. He also looks mid 40s, not a guy in his 20s.
Triathlon coverage was abysmal At least they showed a few snippets of the last few km of the run and the first few finishers.
In the last few K, Blummenfelt looked to be digging hard, face grimaced and strained form.
Wilde was hanging and seemed "comfortably struggling".
Yee looked strong and composed. If it came down to an neck-and-neck sprint with 400-500m to go, my money would have been on Yee, who has a 7:45 3000m.
If Blummenfelt had any kind of shot, he'd have to go early and open a gap big enough to snap the rubber band - which is exactly what he did, I never saw the break, but apparently he went hard at 1k, with takes steel nuggets when you're already hurting.
I was surprised Yee didn't counter. IMHO, Yee just didn't want it enough and seemed content with any medal.
Blummenfelt slowed a bit before the tape to showboat, which we've seen end it disaster.
The finish line showed who laid it out. Blummenfelt collapsed, puked, and appeared to be fighting cramps.
Guts and good strategy - may not have been the best, but was the best - totally deserved Gold.
tri hard wrote:
Florida Boy wrote:
Has run 1:07 for the run portion of the half iron man twice I think. Some of the slow twitch threads have interesting commentary
I know, right? And it wasn't measured with a piece of rope and timed with a sundial. Like all tri courses, this was precisely calibrated.
BTW, whatever became of that bikie who selfied on youtube with a 13:10 road 5K time trial in his local park? Is he now dominating the pro track circuit?
Lol, if you’re referring to Tom Pidcock, he just dominated the Olympic mountain bike race (after surgery for a broken collarbone less than 2 months ago). Hate all you want, but these guys are fit and tough.
A thread from last year.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10047352
All his training is on Strava. Intervals are rare but ridiculously hard when they do them, and most of the training is extremely slow but in enormous volumes, similar to how Norwegian cross-country skiers train.
Ernest wrote:
te5n1k wrote:
he def doesnt look as fit as someone like yee, luis, iden or pearson.
Blummenfelt looks about as fit as he can be. He also looks mid 40s, not a guy in his 20s.
Triathlon coverage was abysmal At least they showed a few snippets of the last few km of the run and the first few finishers.
In the last few K, Blummenfelt looked to be digging hard, face grimaced and strained form.
Wilde was hanging and seemed "comfortably struggling".
Yee looked strong and composed. If it came down to an neck-and-neck sprint with 400-500m to go, my money would have been on Yee, who has a 7:45 3000m.
If Blummenfelt had any kind of shot, he'd have to go early and open a gap big enough to snap the rubber band - which is exactly what he did, I never saw the break, but apparently he went hard at 1k, with takes steel nuggets when you're already hurting.
I was surprised Yee didn't counter. IMHO, Yee just didn't want it enough and seemed content with any medal.
Blummenfelt slowed a bit before the tape to showboat, which we've seen end it disaster.
The finish line showed who laid it out. Blummenfelt collapsed, puked, and appeared to be fighting cramps.
Guts and good strategy - may not have been the best, but was the best - totally deserved Gold.
Blummenfelt is arguably a better runner than Yee despite physical appearance. Yee’s 7:45 3k race PR is less impressive to me than KB’s 8:12 track time trial after a workout in the middle of a 32 hour training week. A VO2 of 90 helps.
Is he using PEDs? Of course. This is what all elite endurance athletes do. The naivety about that still astonishes me.
8:11 typo
NERunner0353 wrote:
To call him a "fat-man" is disgusting OP. Can't win with LRCers. He drops a performance like that and this is how you want to frame it. Talk about the race. He threw down. Yeesh.
You were right and I think many runners have an erroneous sense of what constitutes a good body composition because they are so influenced by skinny rakes dominating races but that is not a normal build for an adult so this Norwegian who is muscular and mesomorphic is more athletic overall and would have a most useful function in life if put in a jungle situation.
100% right Ghost. This guy is an animal and a great shining example to "fat" guys such as myself around the world. There's hope for me yet lol
Just so we're all clear, chicks are not interested in emaciated runners (with the lone exception of chicks who themselves are emaciated runners - i.e. the exact opposite of Emma Coburn). They think you are gross looking and should try eating occasionally so as to not purposely look like a beta.
Anyone know his 10K split?
I heard them say he dropped a 4:40 last mile.
What a beast.
With the title of the post I was expecting some guy that looked like Vasily Alexeev had won the tri!
I will admit his body isn't what you'd normally expect from a competitor in event like this, but you can't win an event like this and be truly "fat", LOL!
But, it is true, he does not look like the typical skeletor types that dominate distance events!
Holy crap, the headlines are hilarious
https://www.insider.com/kristian-blummenfelt-wins-olympic-gold-vomits-leaves-in-wheelchair-2021-7
Wait, why are you hobby joggers calling this guy fat?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/26/01/45884649-0-image-a-7_1627257862774.jpg
The Truth Hurts wrote:
Holy crap, the headlines are hilarious
https://www.insider.com/kristian-blummenfelt-wins-olympic-gold-vomits-leaves-in-wheelchair-2021-7
He always get terrible blisters in the running part, so the wheelchair is part of his finished the line routine.
When you see an ITU triathlon live, you can see that he stands apart. Again, not fat, but very muscular.
His distended gut (not fat) shows more on the bike when he leans forward. It’s not as obvious when he runs.
His BMI of 26 puts him in the overweight category. However, every elite CrossFitter is in the over weight 25-30 category. The dude is short and has muscular. That’s perfect for multi sports like Tris and CrossFit. He needs an upper body to swim. Distance runners wouldn’t know anything about that.
He just won gold yesterday in mtb race.
norseMN wrote:
Ernest wrote:
Blummenfelt looks about as fit as he can be. He also looks mid 40s, not a guy in his 20s.
Triathlon coverage was abysmal At least they showed a few snippets of the last few km of the run and the first few finishers.
In the last few K, Blummenfelt looked to be digging hard, face grimaced and strained form.
Wilde was hanging and seemed "comfortably struggling".
Yee looked strong and composed. If it came down to an neck-and-neck sprint with 400-500m to go, my money would have been on Yee, who has a 7:45 3000m.
If Blummenfelt had any kind of shot, he'd have to go early and open a gap big enough to snap the rubber band - which is exactly what he did, I never saw the break, but apparently he went hard at 1k, with takes steel nuggets when you're already hurting.
I was surprised Yee didn't counter. IMHO, Yee just didn't want it enough and seemed content with any medal.
Blummenfelt slowed a bit before the tape to showboat, which we've seen end it disaster.
The finish line showed who laid it out. Blummenfelt collapsed, puked, and appeared to be fighting cramps.
Guts and good strategy - may not have been the best, but was the best - totally deserved Gold.
Blummenfelt is arguably a better runner than Yee despite physical appearance. Yee’s 7:45 3k race PR is less impressive to me than KB’s 8:12 track time trial after a workout in the middle of a 32 hour training week. A VO2 of 90 helps.
Is he using PEDs? Of course. This is what all elite endurance athletes do. The naivety about that still astonishes me.
Blummenfelt knew the competition and knew his limits/strengths... and executed accordingly;
"I knew I couldn’t outkick them on the carpet but I could use my engine and really bring it home"
He did what Whitfield should have done in 2008... a bit different situation... a kicker but with a lot of ground to make up... but to win, he also needed to unleash the beast painfully far out... if Whitfield had gone ~200m or so sooner, he would have had another gold.
Even at the elite level, some folks just aren't mentally prepared to open the hurt locker all the way.
I can't remember when and who said this... something about some old-school Russian coach saying you know you raced hard enough if you collapse at the finish and are so spent that if a dog came up and pi$$ed on your head you wouldn't move... I saw that from Blummenfelt... Yee was frisky enough to come help him up...
tri hard wrote:
Florida Boy wrote:
Has run 1:07 for the run portion of the half iron man twice I think. Some of the slow twitch threads have interesting commentary
I know, right? And it wasn't measured with a piece of rope and timed with a sundial. Like all tri courses, this was precisely calibrated.
BTW, whatever became of that bikie who selfied on youtube with a 13:10 road 5K time trial in his local park? Is he now dominating the pro track circuit?
Pidcock.
He just recorded it on strava and then other people made a big deal out of it. Looked like he was running high 4s or low 5s in actuality.
He just won Gold in the Olympic MTB race, and has had very, very good results in his first few races on the road. He's easily a top 10 in a generation talent or better.
norseMN wrote:
peekay wrote:
Half wrong.
They do focus on very easy for the easy days.
But their intervals are pretty much all threshold. They are very much about slowing down and doing higher volume intervals.
That Triathlon Show has some good interviews with their coach. All about intensity control and not going too hard
Thanks for pointing out my error. It looks like they go intense close to the peak races and threshold the rest of the year. Interesting in the the interviews with his coach that they set at 1.0 mmol of lactate for endurance training. That’s very easy FatMax training.
Vast majority of all elite endurance athletes, with the pseudo exception of runners, train this way. Rowers. XC skiing. Cycling. You name it.
60% or so of HRmax is a pretty typical day. About 80% of training sessions and 90% of training time is that intensity. The other bit is your hard intervals at/above threshold, often focused on extending interval duration rather than intensity.
It works because interval stuff is dose dependent (time * intensity = benefit), but general aerobic pathways are time exposure (time = benefit) dependent.
It doesn't make a difference, metabolically, if you go at 1mmol lactate/60% of HRmax or 2.5mmol/80% of max. Same aerobic benefits.
So, you go easier and keep CNS fatigue low, avoid injuries, and can do much higher volume easier and still execute quality intervals.
Runners are the only group that dont do this. Most non pros seem to run at 75% or higher of HRmax, around 2-3mmol, and most pros are still around 65-70% or so.
Even in running its surprising how few guys running 14-20' that haven't caught on how much easier the pros train. Threshold pace for an elite is like 4:30-4:40. Most elites are doing general mileage between 6:00-7:00 pace. At the fastest end thats 75% of threshold speed.
Scaled for a 17' guy thats 7:20 at the fastest to 8:30 at the slowest. Slower for recovery. For a 20' guy thats 8:30 at the fastest! 10:00 at the slow end.
