Remember that plague that wiped out the Amish because they don't vaccine?

Fixed. 1 in 800 Americans died, not 1 in 800 million of course

So the 1.5 years drop in life expectancy is clearly a lie.

The Unkle wrote:

So the 1.5 years drop in life expectancy is clearly a lie.

No it is not. Your disinformation campaign is not helped by your mathematical ignorance.

Perhaps you should do some reading before your mouth writes checks that your brain can't cash.

Imagine not knowing very much on a topic and still deciding to make a statement about it? This is why our country is in such a terrible position. Do better man.

waFWRFws wrote:

Religious sects that don't vaccinate are often tiny in numbers and protected by the rest of us vaccinating.

Now, GQP-Antivaxxers are not so "tiny in numbers" and their failure to vaccinate will cost us. And them. Mostly them.

CORRECT!

800 dude x wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

So the 1.5 years drop in life expectancy is clearly a lie.

No it is not. Your disinformation campaign is not helped by your mathematical ignorance.

Perhaps you should do some reading before your mouth writes checks that your brain can't cash.

It's simple math. Prove it wrong.

Flagpole wrote:

waFWRFws wrote:

Religious sects that don't vaccinate are often tiny in numbers and protected by the rest of us vaccinating.

Now, GQP-Antivaxxers are not so "tiny in numbers" and their failure to vaccinate will cost us. And them. Mostly them.

CORRECT!

What?

Religious sects are protected by us vaxing but others not vaxing will hurt us?

Want to explain how that works?

How can the "early" death (in fact most are quite elderly) of 1 in 800 Americans lower life expectancy by 1.5 years?

Come on Covids. This is pre Algebra. Show me the numbers.

I will show you mine.

800 Americans with a life expectancy of 77.5 years = 62,000 expected years.

One dies at age 40 (more like 80), reducing the expected years by 37.5 years to 61,962.5.

Divide by 800 and life expectancy is now 77.45 years. A drop of 0.05 years, not 1.50 years.

QED

The post you're responding to doesn't make sense (its cited 22.9% increase in death rates doesn't make sense either, because that would imply that only about 2 million Americans a year die), but I assume the original source included some qualifiers that the poster didn't catch, like maybe a one- or three-year drop in life expectancy for people in some age groups.

There's at least one major problem in your analysis, though. If life expectancy is 76 for men & 81 for women, that's life expectancy at birth, not at age 75. Once someone reaches 75, their average life expectancy is a lot longer than 1 or 6 years. If not, what would be the life expectancy of an 80-year-old man, negative four years?

Also, I'm pretty sure your "move the avg age at death to 10" hypothetical is off by a factor of 10. If (ignoring my point above) the average years lost per death at 75 is 3.5 years, the average years lost per death at 10 would be 68.5, so the total drop in life expectancy would be around 20 times greater in the second case than the first, not just double, so the drop would go to around 0.9 years.

JamesD2 wrote:

[quote]The Unkle wrote:

If (ignoring my point above) the average years lost per death at 75 is 3.5 years, the average years lost per death at 10 would be 68.5, so the total drop in life expectancy would be around 20 times greater in the second case than the first, not just double, so the drop would go to around 0.9 years.

So if the avg age at death were 10 for Covid deaths, your analysis proves that the life expectancy drop would by 0.9 years.

Since the avg age at death is at least 75, then I assume you agree that the 1.5 years drop in life expectancy is mathematically impossible?

Avg age of death for Covid is around the life expectancy of 77.5 years. Cannot find an exact number but we do know the median age at death is north of 80 and that the average would be a little less that that.

Let's say life expectancy of the avg 77.5 year old American is @ 11 years.

Now consider that the typical Covid death is of a rather unhealthy person. Oft living in a nursing home. Nearly all with at least two serious health conditions. What is their life expectancy?

Five years?

So one in 800 Americans is dying five years early.

A drop in life expectancy of 1.5 years is hogwash

The Unkle, when faced with reality:

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/boy-putting-fingers-in-ears-with-eyes-closed-lea-patersonscience-photo-library.jpg

The Grim Reaper wrote:

The Unkle, when faced with reality:

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/boy-putting-fingers-in-ears-with-eyes-closed-lea-patersonscience-photo-library.jpg

See how the Covid crew uses logic, data, and math to support their view!

A picture's worth a thousand words!

The Grim Reaper wrote:

A picture's worth a thousand words!

Right.

A random picture that has nothing to do with the topic is far more valuable in getting to the truth than a mathematical analysis of the claim that American life expectancy dropped 1.5 years due to Covid.

I will give you my cliche:

You can feel most of the people all of the time

The Unkle wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:

A picture's worth a thousand words!

Right.

A random picture that has nothing to do with the topic is far more valuable in getting to the truth than a mathematical analysis of the claim that American life expectancy dropped 1.5 years due to Covid.

I will give you my cliche:

You can feel most of the people all of the time

I think you need your morning coffee.

The Unkle wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

CORRECT!

What?

Religious sects are protected by us vaxing but others not vaxing will hurt us?

Want to explain how that works?

[sigh]

Read this several times if you need to...

When small groups (like a very minority religious sect) don't get vaccinated while the rest of us do, they are largely protected because the rest of us did get vaccinated. The more people that are vaccinated against a certain disease, the more that are protected.

NOW though, we have a larger and larger group of people who are refusing to get vaccinated, not just for COVID-19, but for other things too. When THAT happens, those tiny pockets of people are no longer as protected.

So, respond if you like, but I'm not interested in any response that either shows you don't understand the above or due to some political stance you have, you disagree. Science and math are real. I won't argue with someone who doesn't understand that...mostly because YAWN.

Holy efff you guys are easy

I posted this as a joke the other day and there's 2 pages of replies, LMAO

sportsillustrations wrote:

Yeah me neither.

The way you morons devote huge chunks of your life to desperately trying to come up with some absurd rationalization of your inhuman stupidity is just a truly amazing thing.

I picture you spending hours of every day desperately scouring Daily Caller, RedState, and any other source of Nazi garbage propaganda, grasping for some pseudo-'scientific' argument you can make to try and justify positions that you probably *know*, at some deeper level, don't make the tiniest f***ing bit of sense from any conceivable rational angle --but to which you've wholly committed yourself anyway, out of whatever deeper bigotry and sickness governs your brain.

They never make any sense, they're easily dismissed by anybody with a room-temp IQ in 3 minutes, and then you morons just go back to the well of Nazi bullsh*t to find some *other* ridiculous non-argument to hang your hat on for a day or two.

Then eventually you cycle back to the previous piece of horse-sh*t that was already completely debunked the last time you attempted to float it.

You really are the saddest people alive. That *this* is how you choose to spend your time on Earth would be such an incredible *embarrassment* to anyone with even a minimal capacity for objective thought.