Grant Fisher was closing on Chelimo. Chelimo then impeded progress. He should be DQ'd

yepyepandagain wrote:

Rubbins racin! Maybe 10 women in the women's 1500 should be DQ'd after throwing Purrier off the track in the first 20 yards! Do not be so picky!

There is going to be some of this in racing as long as it is not intentional.

Except for the fact that Chelimo admitted it was intentional? You mean except for that?

Didn't hocker do a way worse impedement against nuguse at ncaas

BekeleKip wrote:

Took them out to lane 4.

Almost 5

I like a little blocking, like shutting down lane one off the turn but taking somebody out three lanes was way over the top. You can't disqualify him if the rules don't say anything about it. Should there be a rule? I like in professional cycling rule that says you can't block a guy's established line to the finish to keep them from passing you. There's also a danger issue there of course. Certainly is subjective. But yeah anybody who said he wasn't impeding their progress is full of it. He came over a full two or three lanes. If he didn't come over so far then why are we talking about it. Cuz he did. Probably legal definitely dirty and a chump move.

the rules! the rules! wrote:

And now we know why most of the posters here wound up on the XC team in HS insteads of football or soccer.

Yeah football players can't run past 40 yards and soccer players flop every time they are touched, both are so tough, NOT!!!!

Chelimo said he is a nice guy, well everything about this race shows he isn't. It is a real unsportsmanship tactic to purposely drift and to end up in the 4th lane is out of the Cosby show. Typical, unsportsmanlike kenyans, they do anything to win. At least at the WC and Olympics he will get Dq'd for this. There have been a couple DL meets where runners have been DQ'd for blocking into the 2nd lane, even against their own countrymen. No way this is allowed at Olympics. He better straighten himself out before then.

He chastised Mead when he was drifting out into Mead's path earlier. He expected everyone to get out of his way and give him the right of way anytime he choose. He is the one that is going to have issues at the olympics when he gets bumped. Don't expect much from him as his whinnying will cost him alot there.

bigmig19 wrote:

I like a little blocking, like shutting down lane one off the turn but taking somebody out three lanes was way over the top. You can't disqualify him if the rules don't say anything about it. Should there be a rule? I like in professional cycling rule that says you can't block a guy's established line to the finish to keep them from passing you. There's also a danger issue there of course. Certainly is subjective. But yeah anybody who said he wasn't impeding their progress is full of it. He came over a full two or three lanes. If he didn't come over so far then why are we talking about it. Cuz he did. Probably legal definitely dirty and a chump move.

I bet you wouldn’t be so blasé if they had clipped feet with each other and gone down resulting in injury. Fishe and Kincaid could have missed the Olympics because of that clown. Need to shut this down before it sets precedent.

Sagan hasn’t looked good so far

Nice to see Quintana get frisky

Woodsy apparently was in there for a bit too, so good that he may not be badly injured from yesterday.

It’s hilarious to read these posts. To be honest, the posters defending Chelimo would be screaming for the head of any white runner that did this to any non-white runner. Sure, these same people will say that’s not true, but they’re lying. These are the same people who fall over each other trying to show how woke they are by shrieking about how horrible white people are if there’s a non-white person around - or a message board handy.

If Chelimo were a white guy he’d have been DQ’d. End of story.

continental drifter wrote:

It’s hilarious to read these posts. To be honest, the posters defending Chelimo would be screaming for the head of any white runner that did this to any non-white runner. Sure, these same people will say that’s not true, but they’re lying. These are the same people who fall over each other trying to show how woke they are by shrieking about how horrible white people are if there’s a non-white person around - or a message board handy.

If Chelimo were a white guy he’d have been DQ’d. End of story.

Hocker cut off Nuguse at NCAAs, and no one cried about it on here. I wonder why? Nuguse just shrugged it off. And Fisher and Kincaid said it was cool themselves, but their big brothers on LR are not okay with it. Hope you guys are there in Tokyo to defend then against all the big bad international runners who do not magically part ways when they see the Americans trying to make their way up from the back.

Impedement:

The person in front of me who impedes me from my goal.

That’s every 4th placer.

continental drifter wrote:

It’s hilarious to read these posts. To be honest, the posters defending Chelimo would be screaming for the head of any white runner that did this to any non-white runner. Sure, these same people will say that’s not true, but they’re lying. These are the same people who fall over each other trying to show how woke they are by shrieking about how horrible white people are if there’s a non-white person around - or a message board handy.

If Chelimo were a white guy he’d have been DQ’d. End of story.

Most realistic take on the situation on the whole board. The US is infected with soy. The soy crew will rationalize until their spines crack to defend non-white malfeasance. Look at how one woman in the thread tried to compare Hocker at the NCAA to Chelimo today - and noticing how silly and disingenuous that comparison is is racist of course.

Fisher made Kincaid run even further out, he should be dq'd

If Cooper Teare had a better kick today and ended up getting third place, because his stride was not interfered with, would Chelimo have been DQ'd?

Just watched the recorded race and came here to see how many threads there were on this, as there should be.

1) Yes, he violated the rules.

2) Yes, he intended to impede them. He admitted that he did.

3) My quess is that nothing came of protests that were lodged because USA Track and Field wants those three to go.

4)If he had pulled this in the Olympics, a Diamond League or World Championship, he would be GONE. Anyone who follows the sport for any length of time knows that if you push people into lane four in a major meet with judges who don't have some skin in the outcome, you are gone.

5) Some high school kid who just watched this race thinks that is a fair strategy and will replicate it. That kid will be GONE.

The only question for me, which we won't know an answer to, is if Teare had come up lane one and nipped Kincaid for the third spot, would the rules have been applied? I think so. I think they went with "no harm, no foul" but if there was a harm they couldn't ignore the obvious foul.

I wonder what a foreign official would call if Chelimo pulls that stunt in Tokyo?

USA is so loved that nobody would DQ an American if given the chance?

Ask Evander Holyfield, the 1972 basketball team, Nancy Kerrigan, Denny Heagle, Roy Jones Jr, and a bunch of others.

Grant Fisher should have held his line and given Chelimo a forearm shiver when he impeded him.

Did you actually see the race? TV showed it from lots of perspectives .Neither Grant nor Kincaid were gaining on Chelimo in the final straight.

the rules! the rules! wrote:

Here We Go Again wrote:

Lack of contact has nothing to do with it. The RULES says that you aren't allowed to impede another runners progress by moving over a lane to block them.

And now we know why most of the posters here wound up on the XC team in HS insteads of football or soccer.

What's wrong with pushing them to lane 2 or lane 4 or lane 9?

Chelimo Admitted Intension wrote:

There are multiple discussions on the same topic. They need to be merged. Below is from one of them:

No Shortcuts wrote:

Rule 163 (3): a competitor must run in a direct line after entering the final straightaway of any race with two or more turns unless there is another runner in his or her path (paraphrased a bit).

Chelimo was in the lead, so there was no one in his path, and certainly no need for him to move from Lane 1 to Lane 4 to make his way to the finish line. He did it to obstruct the other two runners. Dirty move, especially for a guy who complained the whole race about people making incidental contact with him.

He did run in a direct line....from lane 1 to lane 4.

Had he been swerving from lane to lane then I would see that as a DQ.

There was no contact.....other than the incidental contact on Chelimo's heels.

Someone should have went inside and outkicked him. They couldn't so they didn't.

Alan

The authorities really must look at the rules. This habit - and I think it's very prevalent in the States - of trying to impede other runners in the finishing straight is, at the very least, an example of poor sportsmanship but I would call it cheating. and, lets have more head -on shots where this odious tactic it's even more blatantly obvious