Gwen exceeded expectations.

chogggggeeeee wrote:

9th in the US final Olympic trials in the 5000m. Honestly, for someone that is new to this.... pretty solid... and good enough turnover to now step up to the marathon for sure.

Gotta imagine Nike is shi*%ing their pants right now. Dropped Gwen and kept the gals on the sauce.. not a great look lol.

Gwen just simply has too big of a frame for the marathon. Great effort by her to go after this though, and top 10 at the US Olympic Trials should be applauded.

She barely broke 16 lol and has very little leg room for improving at 35. No one cares about top 10s anymore, if it's not top 3 it shouldn't even be mentioned on this website that's the only way US distance runners can hope to stay competitive.

Regardless, she will always be remembered as the narcissist triathlete who had the audacity to tell the world she will win a gold medal in a race she's never completed in and got her ass handed to her by our amazing American women. I'm proud that our runner gals put her in her place.

chogggggeeeee wrote:

9th in the US final Olympic trials in the 5000m. Honestly, for someone that is new to this.... pretty solid... and good enough turnover to now step up to the marathon for sure.

Gotta imagine Nike is shi*%ing their pants right now. Dropped Gwen and kept the gals on the sauce.. not a great look lol.

Who said Gwen got dropped by Nike. I knew people were speculating but I thought it wasn't true. They probably gave her some leeway since she's the reigning gold medalist in the tri. However after this year who knows where her contract stands.

Her running career was pretty embarrassing.

chogggggeeeee wrote:

9th in the US final Olympic trials in the 5000m. Honestly, for someone that is new to this.... pretty solid... and good enough turnover to now step up to the marathon for sure.

Gotta imagine Nike is shi*%ing their pants right now. Dropped Gwen and kept the gals on the sauce.. not a great look lol.

Not really. She claimed she was going to get gold in the OLYMPICS. She didn’t even make the team nor did she come close to making it.

I wouldn't even call it a career more like a pipe dream she had the opportunity to pursue thanks to her tri gold.

She's smart not to stay in triathlon though because if she attempted long course (non-drafting) triathlon she would get her ass handed to her worse than she did as a runner. That's the big elephant in the room when talking about her past performance; she exploited drafting in the swim and the bike to kick her way to a win in the end of a run. If Pre was a triathlete he would despise her.

Senor Chang wrote:

chogggggeeeee wrote:

9th in the US final Olympic trials in the 5000m. Honestly, for someone that is new to this.... pretty solid... and good enough turnover to now step up to the marathon for sure.

Gotta imagine Nike is shi*%ing their pants right now. Dropped Gwen and kept the gals on the sauce.. not a great look lol.

Not really. She claimed she was going to get gold in the OLYMPICS. She didn’t even make the team nor did she come close to making it.

well she got gold in the tri lol. i have to give her respect for switching from the sport not only was she good at but one of the best in. she did it because she must not have enjoyed biking or swimming, which i'm going to assume is the latter. She made that decision for her and respect for taking a crack at it.

Also I retract my statement about her getting dropped by Nike, it seems she is sponsored by another company based off her instagram, just still training with Bowerman. Probably won't be after this year or after worlds.

What??? Almost a hobbyjogger 16min and exceeded expectations? What are you smoking?

Senor Chang wrote:

chogggggeeeee wrote:

9th in the US final Olympic trials in the 5000m. Honestly, for someone that is new to this.... pretty solid... and good enough turnover to now step up to the marathon for sure.

Gotta imagine Nike is shi*%ing their pants right now. Dropped Gwen and kept the gals on the sauce.. not a great look lol.

Not really. She claimed she was going to get gold in the OLYMPICS. She didn’t even make the team nor did she come close to making it.

that's embarrassing

Had I been to the trials tonight I would have made a huge poster of her tweet from 4 years ago

"My next goal is to qualify in the marathon for Tokyo 2020 and win Gold." -Gwen Jorgensen

Any competitor that saw that would have likely run a few seconds faster in anger :) plus a nice reminder to Gwen to retract the stupid statement.

Yes, good run for her. Better than I expected.

I thought that was a nice result too. Nothing to scoff at.

Not her own.

One more race to the end of her running career. Not quite the gold medal in the Olympic marathon she expected.

MAGAtothebitterend wrote:

I wouldn't even call it a career more like a pipe dream she had the opportunity to pursue thanks to her tri gold.

She's smart not to stay in triathlon though because if she attempted long course (non-drafting) triathlon she would get her ass handed to her worse than she did as a runner. That's the big elephant in the room when talking about her past performance; she exploited drafting in the swim and the bike to kick her way to a win in the end of a run. If Pre was a triathlete he would despise her.

Just nonsense. She hardly lost a race in 2 years. She was unbeatable. She often had a deficit going into the run and always made it up. No one could get enough of a lead to beat her.

She was 25 seconds behind a couple of 14-mid runners. Probably equivalent of sub-15 performance .

Gwen seems like a great person as well. People are mean for no reason. 9th in OT for track and an OLY gold in the Tri. Cheering got her in the 10k.

AJrunner wrote:

Gwen seems like a great person as well. People are mean for no reason. 9th in OT for track and an OLY gold in the Tri. Cheering got her in the 10k.

This is LRC after all. Home of the immature, frustrated, basement dwelling incels.

Not her own unless she's sucking deep from commercial-propane-sized tankers of copium. See her instagram post regarding marathon medals.

She's an s-tier world class triathlon athlete, of course she would do well in a national championships track and field event near to her discipline. The overspecialization required to be good at specifically the 10000 at the national level, the current american depth in the 10000, and the fact that BTC has been more recently focused on race developing women more specifically towards the 1500-5000 range means she would obviously bump down from the more appropriate 10k. It's a reasonable expectation that she would come in 4th-7th at the trials in the 5000. Additionally, we should also include her comfort/conditioning/experience with success at a high level of competition (albeit not on a track) as a performance benefit over the majority share of the field, especially the women left in the heats.

I think her next steps from here will be interesting. She's starting to show her age (shoulder posture certainly isn't getting much better), and the depth at the shorter distances will shut her out. She's a competent elite-level 5000m runner, but there's a significant lacking element that I can't exactly put my finger on when it comes to sealing the deal for W's on the track. I also don't think she can reasonably go back to tri, likely due to a number of mixed conflicts regarding branding, legal obligations to nike and asics both (speculatively), and personal preference/social connections (training infrastructure now built around/with BTC as opposed to a tri group). I think if we look at dominant elite running traits from across the board (kickers, stickers, surgers, and leaders) - she's only in that neighborhood, not necessarily dictating the HOA codes as she would need to IOT reasonably and reliably seek out an olympic medal in the event.

Gwen's acceptance of sponsorship by chevron (who themselves are trying to heal their stock price re:Ecuador) was the final nail in the coffin for me personally (see username). It's sad that someone who could have probably done another solid run at tri gave it up for what...a sponsorship change away from asics? Nike money must have been good.