Shelby Houlihan, Colleen Quigley

bowermandoping wrote:

Is it just a random coincidence that Quigley left BTC just 2 weeks after Shelby Houlihan found out out about her positive test. Could this have been something she was suspicious of and decided to leave upon finding out what she believed. Maybe this is overthinking it but it also seems like BTC reduced the amount of posts of Shelby on the account after the positive result. I think that BTC needs to be questioned and it is possible that athletes wanted to leave because of their dirty behaviors within the group.

Kate Grace bailed too and it wasn't a sponsor issue because she's still signed by Nike.

- Colleen left.

- Kate left.

- Jager pulls out of the trials.

- Several athletes leave altitude to go back to Portland.

- Courtney sandbags a couple of steeple races to mediocre times (albeit wins).

- Marielle runs poorly.

It's all a conspiracy!

bowermandoping wrote:

Is it just a random coincidence that Quigley left BTC just 2 weeks after Shelby Houlihan found out out about her positive test. Could this have been something she was suspicious of and decided to leave upon finding out what she believed. Maybe this is overthinking it but it also seems like BTC reduced the amount of posts of Shelby on the account after the positive result. I think that BTC needs to be questioned and it is possible that athletes wanted to leave because of their dirty behaviors within the group.

Was thinking the same thing.

I’m glad dopers are being caught. It’s all the sweeter coming from the time trial specialist, crap talking, social (media) butterflies over at BTC.

My schadenfreude levels are higher than Shelby’s T.

cicada eater wrote:

- Colleen left.

- Kate left.

- Jager pulls out of the trials.

- Several athletes leave altitude to go back to Portland.

- Courtney sandbags a couple of steeple races to mediocre times (albeit wins).

- Marielle runs poorly.

It's all a conspiracy!

Something doesn’t add up. Very sketchy.

Im waiting to see what colleen has to say about her former teammate same with kate grace

It would make sense why they left because they didn’t want their name to get tainted who knows

cicada eater wrote:

- Colleen left.

- Kate left.

- Jager pulls out of the trials.

- Several athletes leave altitude to go back to Portland.

- Courtney sandbags a couple of steeple races to mediocre times (albeit wins).

- Marielle runs poorly.

It's all a conspiracy!

You raise some interesting points 🤔

i am just asking the question wrote:

cicada eater wrote:

- Colleen left.

- Kate left.

- Jager pulls out of the trials.

- Several athletes leave altitude to go back to Portland.

- Courtney sandbags a couple of steeple races to mediocre times (albeit wins).

- Marielle runs poorly.

It's all a conspiracy!

You raise some interesting points 🤔

none of these points are interesting.

-She wasn't getting enough money from Nike

-The training program obviously never worked for her

-He's hurt

-Altitude is hard and not everybody responds to it, and they ran better after more time at sea level

-She hadn't raced a steeple in.. two years??

-That one, I do not understand, but have no idea what it could have to do with Shelby

belfast1913 wrote:

Im waiting to see what colleen has to say about her former teammate same with kate grace

It would make sense why they left because they didn’t want their name to get tainted who knows

This actually seems pretty plausible. They probably didn't like the way BTC and Nike were going to stick up for Shelby after a positive test. It will be interesting to see what Gwen thinks, being the huge proponent of clean sport and athletes being responsible for what they put in their body that she is.

cicada eater wrote:

- Colleen left.

- Kate left.

- Jager pulls out of the trials.

- Several athletes leave altitude to go back to Portland.

- Courtney sandbags a couple of steeple races to mediocre times (albeit wins).

- Marielle runs poorly.

It's all a conspiracy!

And centro

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

bowermandoping wrote:

Is it just a random coincidence that Quigley left BTC just 2 weeks after Shelby Houlihan found out out about her positive test. Could this have been something she was suspicious of and decided to leave upon finding out what she believed. Maybe this is overthinking it but it also seems like BTC reduced the amount of posts of Shelby on the account after the positive result. I think that BTC needs to be questioned and it is possible that athletes wanted to leave because of their dirty behaviors within the group.

Was thinking the same thing.

I’m glad dopers are being caught. It’s all the sweeter coming from the time trial specialist, crap talking, social (media) butterflies over at BTC.

My schadenfreude levels are higher than Shelby’s T.

The sport of running is will never has same popularity and mainstream appeal and cohesion as the NFL because runners like yourself take glees in a runners downfall. This is why we not can advance into more mainstream appeal. Too many haters.

I hope she dishes out some dirt

Barry Badrinath wrote:

belfast1913 wrote:

Im waiting to see what colleen has to say about her former teammate same with kate grace

It would make sense why they left because they didn’t want their name to get tainted who knows

This actually seems pretty plausible. They probably didn't like the way BTC and Nike were going to stick up for Shelby after a positive test. It will be interesting to see what Gwen thinks, being the huge proponent of clean sport and athletes being responsible for what they put in their body that she is.

you think it's plausible that everyone on the team has known the whole time, and that it hasn't gotten out? and that they all "knew" exactly how it was going to go? even though there are perfectly rational and evidence based reasons to suggest they left for entirely different reasons?

Also, Kate Grace just posted on IG about it and called it "a nightmare" and "devastating."

If she was professional, she wouldn't. That said, I wouldn't blame her for feeling pretty good right about now about her own prospects re. life after athletics, not being connected to BTC during this time.

Everyone lately has noted BTC's poor performances for the women, so I think they all have known for a bit and it's gotten to them.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

Was thinking the same thing.

I’m glad dopers are being caught. It’s all the sweeter coming from the time trial specialist, crap talking, social (media) butterflies over at BTC.

My schadenfreude levels are higher than Shelby’s T.

The sport of running is will never has same popularity and mainstream appeal and cohesion as the NFL because runners like yourself take glees in a runners downfall. This is why we not can advance into more mainstream appeal. Too many haters.

That’s weird coming from someone that posts nasty, negative, hateful and racist threads all the time. Upwards of 6/7 a day.

When CQ left BTC, a good number of people thought this was an idiot move. But now ... not so much. To be honest, I was doubtful but props to her if she got out before this all came out. I still think she shills too much, but hey, gotta pay the bills.

Shelby is DIRTY. We all eat pork and tacos all the time..........also are her and centro done?

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

Was thinking the same thing.

I’m glad dopers are being caught. It’s all the sweeter coming from the time trial specialist, crap talking, social (media) butterflies over at BTC.

My schadenfreude levels are higher than Shelby’s T.

The sport of running is will never has same popularity and mainstream appeal and cohesion as the NFL because runners like yourself take glees in a runners downfall. This is why we not can advance into more mainstream appeal. Too many haters.

Ha ha

In English, moran?

Why would I want running to be the NFL? More money and looser rules?

It’s funny the tale of two sides. When it was ajee Wilson everyone was saying she was guilty and now that it’s this girl everyone is saying she’s innocent and are standing by her side. Why can’t it be the same for both sides