Dos Santos, Brazilian 40 year old, (in 3 weeks), finishes 3rd in Brazil 10,000 champs, 29:52.78

Dos Santos - this guy is going to kick major booty when he turns 40 on July 1, 2021. Monster runner.

Brazil master pride, Dos Santos.

veterans are running really well in argentina,chile and uruguay,as well.Usually up near the very top in their nations.

jeff tallon wrote:

veterans are running really well in argentina,chile and uruguay,as well.Usually up near the very top in their nations.

How do you explain this curious cultural trait? Do rice and beans contribute to good athletic longevity? Actually, I’m just joking there but seriously?

Ghost1 wrote:

Men's 10,000m

Final

Place Name Birth Date Nat. Mark

1. Gilberto Silvestre LOPES 30 MAY 1989 BRA 29:48.06

2. Wendell Geronimo SOUZA 11 OCT 1991 BRA 29:49.50

3. Giovani DOS SANTOS 01 JUL 1981 BRA 29:52.78

4. Andre Luiz SILVA ANTONIO 09 APR 1986 BRA 29:56.41

5. Robson PEREIRA DE LIMA 26 FEB 1988 BRA 30:12.58

6. Fabio JESUS 09 MAR 1999 BRA 30:16.17

7. Samuel SOUZA DO NASCIMENTO 17 AUG 1988 BRA 30:20.40

8. Juliano DE ARAUJO 26 JAN 1999 BRA 30:46.25

9. Alexandre Ribeiro PASTORELLO 22 APR 1998 BRA 31:05.77

10. Edimar FERREIRA 14 OCT 1999 BRA 31:08.31

11. Wilson DA SILVA ARAUJO 21 JAN 1993 BRA 31:10.89

12. Justino PEDRO DA SILVA 01 JUN 1985 BRA 31:28.17

Not a good level of performances up to todays elite standards. Maybe it was very hot conditions? Looks like the Brazilian elite runners needs a touch by my magic wand!? Well.....we will see in future if it will be Ukrainian elites or Brazilian elites that will get my great magic Dancan system touch..... :)

If.....I just say if , my fiance and I decide to move to Brasil I will maybe set up a Coach J.S Dancan training Camp and make the Brasilian running tradition great again.

Could it be the same Dos Santos who posted this 17 years ago:

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17 years ago 08/17/2003 5:15am CDT re: trail runner

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i ran almost more than a hour, i would rather ran 1x a day 1 hour '15 than, 2 x 30 and 45. i really long ran on the weekend,5'45-6 minute pace(started at 13 miles, all the way to 22) a lots of 3/4 x 5k on the track at the marathon pace, with 3 minutes in terval. a lots of 20 up to 30 x 400 on the track, little fast than the my marathon pace, with 45 sec, / 1 minute intervals. when i had a race to do, exemplo, i had i half marathon on sunday, i would 15 miles at a confortable pace day before. then i would jog to the race, sometimes were 5, 8 miles, i would race, then i would jog back.(yes a 23-28 miles day) if i ran the half at the marathon pace, i knew when i would rest i would be able to run the marathon on that pace. i was compete tired, i would always let and not care who beats me, because i knew i was trainning fo a marathon.lots of volume. i still believe in an old trainning method. now days we talk SO MUCH about scientific language, this and that and bla, bla, bla, ......but we gotta remenber how fast bill rodgers, shorter, greg meyer, breadsley,salazar, bjorkland, tabb, and many others ran 25 / 30 years ago. American distance runners, specially marathoners it is sad to watch. Now days, a guy ran 2'11 everybody says WOW!! come on, PLEASE!DERek clayton, ran, 2'08, 40 years ago.Bud edelen ran 2'14, an america , in the early 60's.WE NEED TO THINK MORE LIKE THE OLD DAYS AND THE RESULTS WILL GET BETTER.

its possible they dont really care about ageing.also maybe some runners take up the sport in their 30s and beyond and its encouraged.

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

Ghost1 wrote:

Men's 10,000m

Final

Place Name Birth Date Nat. Mark

1. Gilberto Silvestre LOPES 30 MAY 1989 BRA 29:48.06

2. Wendell Geronimo SOUZA 11 OCT 1991 BRA 29:49.50

3. Giovani DOS SANTOS 01 JUL 1981 BRA 29:52.78

4. Andre Luiz SILVA ANTONIO 09 APR 1986 BRA 29:56.41

5. Robson PEREIRA DE LIMA 26 FEB 1988 BRA 30:12.58

6. Fabio JESUS 09 MAR 1999 BRA 30:16.17

7. Samuel SOUZA DO NASCIMENTO 17 AUG 1988 BRA 30:20.40

8. Juliano DE ARAUJO 26 JAN 1999 BRA 30:46.25

9. Alexandre Ribeiro PASTORELLO 22 APR 1998 BRA 31:05.77

10. Edimar FERREIRA 14 OCT 1999 BRA 31:08.31

11. Wilson DA SILVA ARAUJO 21 JAN 1993 BRA 31:10.89

12. Justino PEDRO DA SILVA 01 JUN 1985 BRA 31:28.17

Not a good level of performances up to todays elite standards. Maybe it was very hot conditions? Looks like the Brazilian elite runners needs a touch by my magic wand!? Well.....we will see in future if it will be Ukrainian elites or Brazilian elites that will get my great magic Dancan system touch..... :)

A few points. First of all their best runners did not compete. Second point is the possible heat and the humidity, even though it is not summer there at this time. Not sure what time they ran the race but if it was during the daytime it could’ve been a challenge.

I think with your “uncharacteristic” Swedish personality which tends more toward Brazilian exuberance, you would be welcome with opened arms in Brazil.

Brazil has a long tradition of distance running and even had the world record holder in the marathon many many years ago, Ronaldo Da Costa, 2:06, then in 2004 in Athens, if my memory serves me right, for third place was a Brazilian. My bad if I’m getting the dates wrong.

Brazil, unlike Argentina and other neighbors has a long tradition in distance running and you could do very well there. In addition the ladies are, how should I put this tactfully, “quite friendly”. A Brazilian Ukrainian combo would be quite interesting and innovative.

Few things going on this thread, as a Brazilian i will make a few comments.

First on Giovanni - yes he is a great runner still going strong at 40 years of age, but also because as mentioned, competition is weak. Giovanni's best distance, I believe, is the Half Marathon, and he never really developed as a Marathon runner. His PR is 2h16 or so.

The best long distance runner in brazil at the moment, and with a potential to be an international star, is Daniel Ferreira do Nascimento. He just won a couple of weeks ago the Lima Marathon in Peru, in 2h09:05, not easy conditions and not entirely flat course. This guy is a stud and the other day just posted an youtube video of him doing a solo sub 29 10k. He is also very young - only 22 years of age. He is one of these amazing and rare talents - he is not even close to reach his full potential in terms of training. I believe he is 2h04 / 2h05 material.

Yes, Brazil has a lot of tradition in Athletics in general. From Adhemar Ferreira da Silve who won two Olympic golds in triple Jump, then you had Cruz (such a freaking talent - perhaps the best ever in the event?), in the Marathon we even had a WR holder (Ronaldo da Costa in Berlin 1998). Vanderlei Cordeiro de lima won bronze in Athens, but perhaps it would've been gold if not for the incident with the crazy priest. Not to forget Marilson dos Santos, who won NYC Marathon twice, and was running 2h06 and sub-1h Half Marathon before that was common, 10-15 years ago. For some time he was the fastest ever non-African born in the half Marathon (59:33 PB)

Ghost1 - I enjoy your threads but very disappointing comment about the Brazilian women. I don't know if you have ever travelled to Brazil (or Ukraine since you also refer to them). My guess is you haven't - the comment you make is very typical of someone who "hears this and that" and replicates what they hear around. You are wrong and I hope one day a Brazilian woman that you deem as "very friendly" will teach you a lesson, as I've seen many times happening, usually with ignorant European / Americans who have no clue about South America in general.

Yep, I travelled to Brazil many years ago in 1994, specifically to Salvador do Bahia, Lencois, Snr do Bonfim, Feira Santana, Juazeiro do Norte, etc. Social work project with “meninos da rua” etc. Portuguese language classes in Salvador do Bahia.

My comment about Brazilian ladies was said in jest. No offense meant, but apologies anyway. I couldn’t see it it might have been interpreted negatively. My bad.

Daniel DO NASCIMENTO

COUNTRY

Brazil

DATE OF BIRTH

28 JUL 1998

Outdoor

1500 Metres

Performance Place Date

2020 3:48.92 Pista de Atletismo CEAR, Campinas (BRA) 04 DEC 2020

2018 3:46.85 Campinas (BRA) 05 MAY 2018

2016 3:53.03 Campinas (BRA) 26 MAR 2016

2015 3:51.87 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 13 JUN 2015

Outdoor

3000 Metres

Performance Place Date

2015 8:36.51 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 18 APR 2015

2014 8:26.90 Recifé (BRA) 20 SEP 2014

2013 8:41.88 Belém (BRA) 10 NOV 2013

Outdoor

5000 Metres

Performance Place Date

2020 14:17.07 COTP Stadium, São Paulo (BRA) 12 DEC 2020

2019 14:45.53 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 03 AUG 2019

2018 14:28.38 São Paulo (BRA) 24 MAR 2018

2017 14:32.91 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 11 MAR 2017

2016 14:27.33 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 12 MAR 2016

2015 14:31.81 Edmonton (CAN) 31 JUL 2015

2014 14:32.05 São Paulo (BRA) 07 SEP 2014

Outdoor

10,000 Metres

Performance Place Date

2021 29:18.06 Estadio Alberto Spencer Herrera, Guayaquil (ECU) 29 MAY 2021

2020 29:32.61 COTP Stadium, São Paulo (BRA) 10 DEC 2020

2019 30:21.51 CNDA, Bragança Paulista (BRA) 29 AUG 2019

2018 30:41.22 Bragança Paulista (BRA) 10 JUN 2018

2017 29:13.34 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 09 JUN 2017

2016 30:03.76 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 13 MAR 2016

Outdoor

15 Kilometres

Performance Place Date

2019 46:32 São Paulo (BRA) 31 DEC 2019

Outdoor

Half Marathon

Performance Place Date

2020 1:04:27 Gdynia (POL) 17 OCT 2020

Outdoor

Marathon

Performance Place Date

2021 2:09:05 Lima (PER) 23 MAY 2021

Outdoor

2000 Metres Steeplechase

Performance Place Date

2015 5:45.22 Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 14 JUN 2015

2014 5:46.92 Olympic Stadium, Nanjing (CHN) 21 AUG 2014

Outdoor

3000 Metres Steeplechase

Performance Place Date

2020 8:51.69 COTP Stadium, São Paulo (BRA) 06 DEC 2020

2016 8:49.84 Arena Caixa, Sao Bernardo do Campo (BRA) 19 JUN 2016

Check this.

Here are some of the salient points I got from the interview and it’s tough to listen to the athlete because he speaks so fast. It’s much easier to listen to the guru Sergio Rocha, the interviewer.

Some points from the interview which I picked up.

he has the Olympic qualifying time now.

He had to adapt to the weather in lima Peru because it was much colder there.

He was able to obtain a two-year visa to go to Kenya. He wasn’t sure about going to Kenya this time and he also talked about the possibility of going to Europe.

He mentioned wanting to improve his five and 10 km time.

He wants to say thanks to all the people have been following him since the age of 13.

He says that he’s living a dream now to be able to live from sport.

Before and around the 9” minute he mentioned that beginners should start with shorter distances and not focus on the marathon in the beginning. That is to say they should serve an apprenticeship at the shorter distances which will help him with a Marathon later on..

If my understanding is not accurate on some of these points above I stand corrected by the Brazilian.

Just a comment about Brasilian women . I was married to one of them 12 ½ years so I know anyway one of them very close ( besides she was a former contestant at "Miss Brazil" )) )

Brasilian women can`t be categorized into a single group, the same with women in all countries. She is very princip full , orderly and caring. :)

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

Just a comment about Brasilian women . I was married to one of them 12 ½ years so I know anyway one of them very close ( besides she was a former contestant at "Miss Brazil" )) )

Brasilian women can`t be categorized into a single group, the same with women in all countries. She is very princip full , orderly and caring. :)

The voice of reason and experience. Coach J.S. -differences in perceive between Brazilian and Ukrainian culture? One point, if you go to Ukraine you’ll find a very different vibe from the vibe you find in Brazil. Both countries have their merits, but personally I would choose Brazil, but let that not put you off for your future plans with regard to the Ukraine, despite the challenges that country is facing at this present time with its “big neighbor” to the west.

Yes......that`s correct about different cultures of course. But that women are individuals and different in a country stands for sure. The "big neighbor threat" for Ukraine is of course worrying, but I will of course keep my Swedish nationality ( Not possible to have double passport up to Ukrainian rules)and leave as fast as possible if an open much bigger conflict happens ( .......as I hope of course will never happen! ). The Ukrainian culture is more like the Swedish if compared with the Brazilian.

Coach JS big game in the euro on Monday night between Sweden and Spain. I will wish success for your country. You are lucky being a Swede, as it’s a wonderful country possibly one of the best in the world if not the best. I know Finland often takes the ranking of “best quality country” in the world but surely Sweden is not far behind.