Jakob Ingebrigtsen runs European record 12:48.45!!!!

actual footage. wrote:

Dude is an absolute monster. A beast runner.

World is lucky to be witness to such a talent.

The way he was toying with everyone indicates he can go close to the WR very soon.

Another blind fanboy. He wasn't toying with everyone.

Nothing indicates he can go close to the WR very soon.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Semiler wrote:

He was not even all in. He could have run faster but saved his energy for a winning kick.

56.0 last lap. So yes maybe a 12:45 is possible, but it was a pretty well-executed fast race.

https://livecache.sportresult.com/node/binaryData/ATH_PROD/ROME2021/PDF_ARE0170040.PDF?h=xJaxgKmV4jYuW9Kdu42CqiBqqBY=

Katir’s last two laps were absolutely insane because we’re three laps to go he was quite well out of it and not in the race. Insane Katir. Cheptegei has shown some vulnerability.

Jakob 3:28/12:48

el Guerrouj 3:26/12:50

Wild stuff. I had Jakob pegged for 3rd-5th place with a 12:55 or somewhere around there. MASSIVE performance.

Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:

Jakob 3:28/12:48

el Guerrouj 3:26/12:50

Wild stuff. I had Jakob pegged for 3rd-5th place with a 12:55 or somewhere around there. MASSIVE performance.

Subway and Coevett always said that if you ran as fast as a doper (and they say ElG was a doper) you were definitely a doper.

Jakob is already faster at 5,000.

Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:

Jakob 3:28/12:48

el Guerrouj 3:26/12:50

Wild stuff. I had Jakob pegged for 3rd-5th place with a 12:55 or somewhere around there. MASSIVE performance.

Jakob is attacking the 3,000 and 5,000 seriously earlier than El G did (after running the 5,000 as a junior and then becoming all 1500). His 7:27 3,000 made 12:55 the absolute floor to me for the 5,000. He has solid speed but he is very, very aerobically strong. I'm most impressed he ran for the win and didn't back off in the middle when it looked like he might.

reheh wrote:

Chef Gordon Ramzi wrote:

Jakob 3:28/12:48

el Guerrouj 3:26/12:50

Wild stuff. I had Jakob pegged for 3rd-5th place with a 12:55 or somewhere around there. MASSIVE performance.

Subway and Coevett always said that if you ran as fast as a doper (and they say ElG was a doper) you were definitely a doper.

Jakob is already faster at 5,000.

No, I've never said that. Perhaps you're confusing me with Casual Observer? I've argued against that logic many times. I'd agree that it would be very unlikely for a clean Kenyan to run faster than the hundreds of Kenyan dopers, but it's not impossible for clean European to run faster.

Fantastic to see Jakob take the European record away from a Moroccan doper. Next up El G's WR. Every performance restoring some sanity and hope to this great sport. He will likely end his career with 3:24/12:30 or faster.

A guy with insane vo2Max at the age of 11, hailed as the biggest European runnerprodigy from then and throughout his teenage years, trained very smart all his life and all you can come up with is he is a doper.

Shame on you.

Coevett wrote:

I'd agree that it would be very unlikely for a clean Kenyan to run faster than the hundreds of Kenyan dopers, but it's not impossible for clean European to run faster.

Just pure logic and no bias to see here.

Coevett wrote:

reheh wrote:

Subway and Coevett always said that if you ran as fast as a doper (and they say ElG was a doper) you were definitely a doper.

Jakob is already faster at 5,000.

No, I've never said that. Perhaps you're confusing me with Casual Observer? I've argued against that logic many times. I'd agree that it would be very unlikely for a clean Kenyan to run faster than the hundreds of Kenyan dopers, but it's not impossible for clean European to run faster.

Fantastic to see Jakob take the European record away from a Moroccan doper. Next up El G's WR. Every performance restoring some sanity and hope to this great sport. He will likely end his career with 3:24/12:30 or faster.

No, I am not confusing you with casual at all. You changed your arguments after Jakob's 3:28 because until then you defended that Willis was the clean record holder and you even said (often) that it was impossible to run under 3:29 clean.

You are the only one believing this post of yours.

In any case, Jakob ran what was expected of him and was tactically sound. Good race. But I am looking forward to seeing Katir's evolution. How could be a big threat to Jakob in the future.

xzyztxyzt wrote:

Coevett wrote:

I'd agree that it would be very unlikely for a clean Kenyan to run faster than the hundreds of Kenyan dopers, but it's not impossible for clean European to run faster.

Just pure logic and no bias to see here.

+1

And I am the racist, Coevett?

Lets Run needs a separate section, where doping is discussed. Cycling-news forum has this and it makes the experience so much better. If you want to talk doping, then go there, but if you just want to enjoy talking about the great running, then you don´t have to deal with those annoying comments

Coevett is on some super mental EPO that distorts reality. It is not possible for someone clean to type such drivel.

Call me Frank wrote:

Take it to the bank.

Maybe the blood bank where they keep all the bio passports for these cheaters.

Celebrate greatness and please leave shoes and peds for other threads.

History has been written today. European record and fastest non-African 5k ever.

Also big balls run from Katir. McSweyn didn't live up to expectations though...

think first wrote:

Celebrate greatness and please leave shoes and peds for other threads.

History has been written today. European record and fastest non-African 5k ever.

Also big balls run from Katir. McSweyn didn't live up to expectations though...

OK Jakob ran extremely well today. The doping and shoes are part of the discussion.

Coevett wrote:

reheh wrote:

Subway and Coevett always said that if you ran as fast as a doper (and they say ElG was a doper) you were definitely a doper.

Jakob is already faster at 5,000.

No, I've never said that. Perhaps you're confusing me with Casual Observer? I've argued against that logic many times. I'd agree that it would be very unlikely for a clean Kenyan to run faster than the hundreds of Kenyan dopers, but it's not impossible for clean European to run faster.

Fantastic to see Jakob take the European record away from a Moroccan doper. Next up El G's WR. Every performance restoring some sanity and hope to this great sport. He will likely end his career with 3:24/12:30 or faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh5CJhqsOD4

At around 11:20 of the race they really put a surge in there for about 30 meters.

Mentilly wrote:

GaiusVelleius wrote:

Lets Run needs a separate section, where doping is discussed. Cycling-news forum has this and it makes the experience so much better. If you want to talk doping, then go there, but if you just want to enjoy talking about the great running, then you don´t have to deal with those annoying comments

Why is it annoying when a white runner is a doper? Jakob is one of the most obvious dopers I have ever seen.

How can Jacob be one of the most obvious dopers when he has been followed closely by the media since he was 11, where the performance shows steady improvements each and every year?

Aaleby wrote:

Mentilly wrote:

Why is it annoying when a white runner is a doper? Jakob is one of the most obvious dopers I have ever seen.

How can Jacob be one of the most obvious dopers when he has been followed closely by the media since he was 11, where the performance shows steady improvements each and every year?

He is as suspicious of being a doper as Cheptegei is.