Ridiculous DQ? I just got DQd after running 4:08 at mile sectional

I know this wasn't a USATF meet, so there was probably some discretion that could have been used but that was pretty bad and certainly not a "ridiculous" DQ. If you dont want a DQ dont cut people off at the finish for no other reason than to gain advantage.

If it was a USATF meet the rules are very straightforward and apply regardless of whether it impacted someones stride or not, you must take a straight line to the finish, unless passing, therefor if you are leading you cant change lanes, cant even move back into lane 1 if you pass coming out of the turn. DQ would certainly be the right call in a USATF governed meet based on the video shown.

RULE 163

RUNNING COMPETITION

......3. Each competitor shall run in a direct line after entering the final straightaway in all

races of two or more turns unless there is another competitor in his or her path.....

You broke a rule you cheated go home

I'm sure officials are supposed to remain impartial and simply make rulings as they see them, but shouldn't we always put things into context? It's a qualifier meet. If the DQ is even somewhat remotely debatable, what normal human would DQ a kid who was probably 100m ahead of the last qualifier? There wasn't contact- heck the other dude didn't even break stride at all. To me, the official demonstrated a severe lack of understanding of the context. Again, officials are probably supposed to judge like that, but as a human, isn't it weird to completely neglect the context of a situation?

Clear DQ, it also shows you’re a dirty competitor with no sense of sportsmanship.

That's great, but that's not the rule high schools use. According to the article it was ruled interference as defined as:

"Interference is any action by a competitor that unfairly changes the natural running rhythm of a competitor during a race. This may include bumping, tripping, or running across a competitor's path.'' Penalty-Disqualification from event.

So in order for it to qualify as interference, it would have to "unfairly change the natural running rhythm of a competitor". I've watched video like 10 times. The other guys 'running rhythm' doesn't appear to change at all. He was forced to run wider in order to pass I guess, but that's not 'running rhythm'. It's important to not that the way the rule is written "Running across a competitors path" actually isn't 'interference.' Instead, it's merely a way in which interference can happen. In any case, it's highly debatable if he actually broke a high school rule. DQ'ing a guy for that- when he's 100m ahead of other qualifiers- is just silly. If you want to make a point so kids can learn, all high school officials need to enforce this all year in dual meets. You can't just be the one out of a thousand that decides to randomly enforce a very minor example of this at a qualifier.

Wow. Rulebook be darned, that is a ticky tack call.

That sucks dude. Sorry.

^^^ spot on.

No contact, No stride cut = Not a violation. Making someone pass in lane 3 or lane 1 isn’t a violation under HS rules. If the leader is running in lane 2, a choose a different lane to pass in.

Must be more to the story. Did something happen prior to the vid cut? Great race!

You interferred.

It looks to me like the swing barely into lane 3 was very gradually developing from practically the very start of the final straight, and honestly, I would have done the same thing to avoid that huge puddle in lane 2, so as not to get my cheater-spikes wet.

I would like the people defending the DQ to show us some examples of other times this has been called a DQ.

I showed a pic of Centro drifting to the outside of lane 2 in the Olympics without getting a DQ.

Star wrote:

I would like the people defending the DQ to show us some examples of other times this has been called a DQ.

I showed a pic of Centro drifting to the outside of lane 2 in the Olympics without getting a DQ.

Seriously, after watching the video several times, I can't believe the DQ was called. Ridiculous.

C 7, you are spot on. The eventual winner's stride did not alter as he moved from lane 2 to 3. Key point the officials did not look at. Most likely the head judge in this instance did not ask that question to the official that flagged this alleged incident. Key point is there was no contact, therefor, no foul.

The HS rule book does not address taking an on coming runner all the way to lane 8/9 if you don't cut them off, thus breaking their stride.

c7runner7 wrote:

That's great, but that's not the rule high schools use. According to the article it was ruled interference as defined as:

"Interference is any action by a competitor that unfairly changes the natural running rhythm of a competitor during a race. This may include bumping, tripping, or running across a competitor's path.'' Penalty-Disqualification from event.

So in order for it to qualify as interference, it would have to "unfairly change the natural running rhythm of a competitor".

As stated earlier in this thread, the 2020 NFHS Rule Book states in Rule 5-9 Infractions for All Races that: ‘Interference is any action by a competitor that unfairly changes the course or natural running rhythm of a competitor during a race. This may include bumping, tripping, or running across a competitor's path. Penalty-Disqualification from event.’

Per

, "Rules books for the sports of baseball, softball, track & field, boys lacrosse and girls lacrosse were not published for the 2020-21 school year. " So this is the current high school rule. New Jersey follows NFHS.

The article incorrectly quoted the rule.

Yea it does look like the call was highly questionable, but it’s not cool that you are the one complaining about it on a message board.

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c7runner7 wrote:

That's great, but that's not the rule high schools use. According to the article it was ruled interference as defined as:

"Interference is any action by a competitor that unfairly changes the natural running rhythm of a competitor during a race. This may include bumping, tripping, or running across a competitor's path.'' Penalty-Disqualification from event.

So in order for it to qualify as interference, it would have to "unfairly change the natural running rhythm of a competitor".

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Per

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/rules-books-and-case-books-available-as-e-books/

, "Rules books for the sports of baseball, softball, track & field, boys lacrosse and girls lacrosse were not published for the 2020-21 school year. " So this is the current high school rule. New Jersey follows NFHS.

The article incorrectly quoted the rule.

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Read the rule and use common sense— it is very clear this rule was written for someone either making contact with or cutting someone off causing the runner to chop/alter his stride.

Look at the examples bumping and tripping change the runners course; cutting someone off (or “running across their path”) causes them to Chop aka “change their natural running rhythm”.

NONE of this happened. It’s not a violation for the leader to take lane 2 or even lane 8 coming off a turn as long as he does not make contact or chop the stride of another runner. The runners behind have to pass in lane 1 or 3 if the leader is in 2—-those are the rules folks. And this kid followed them.

If the kid in 2nd place wants to choose which lane he wants to finish in- get in the lead and make the choice, otherwise you run in whatever lane the leader is not.

I don't think he is trying to be cool.

Officiating durning the postseason in HS competition is often MUCH more strict than any other officiating, um, ever. This is true across different states and different sports. I agree with most others in this thread that you got a raw deal, but technically you can’t really win this one. I’m not sure the rule not allowing a protest is fair though. That part seems a little fishy. Anyway, I hope your season ends up well, and that you move on to bigger and better things. Judging on the posts on your other qualification efforts, it seems like you’ve channeled this frustration quite well.

That is flawed logic that has already been defeated in this thread.

He got caught by an official who is stringent. Case closed.