raceday wrote:
I wish he sprinted the last 30m, probably would have been easily sub 3:31
He said in his post race interview that he was tying up in the last 100. It definitely wasn't a jog for him.
raceday wrote:
I wish he sprinted the last 30m, probably would have been easily sub 3:31
He said in his post race interview that he was tying up in the last 100. It definitely wasn't a jog for him.
Pretty sure he said last 70m was tough. But he did shut it down with 15m to go instead of at least keeping up the pace and running through the line. There's no doubt he could go 3:30.x now. In Monaco, who knows...
trollism wrote:
SleepingFireman wrote:
Exactly right and that would be bad news all around.
Never mind anyway because Scotland will take almost all the British places regardless, haha.
In one event?
Scotland are hardly a sporting powerhouse.
Across track and field ? The GB headliners are mostly Scots apart from in men's 10000 I'll give as one exception.
fnhriel wrote:
Kerr wearing white-out NIKE Dragonflies as was the women’s 1500m winner for Brooks.
Ya, no way a guy who could only run 3:32 two years ago is now running 3:31... Complete crap, these shoes are getting out of control. He would barely be sub 4 without the shoes.
Coevett wrote:
Sarah Connor wrote:
Wow. One of my favorite runners.
How the hell does he make a 3:31 look so easy, while being built like a tank?
His brother is a 240lb rugby player who has been capped by Scotland.
I remember when I pointed out that in Kenya and Ethiopia, 99% of talented sportsmen and women get funnelled into distance running, whereas in the West it's more like 2%, I was mocked for implying that sports like rugby might harbour unrealized middle-distance talents.
There was a former rugby player who took up distance running several years ago who recently ran a 2:09 marathon.
His brother also represented Scotland at cross country in the age groups.
Crazy to think he is now playing professional rugby for Leicester Tigers.
I think Gareth Bale ran a 4:08 1500m at U17 too, if I remember correctly. Most likely could have been well under 4 minutes as a 16 year old if he trained for it properly.
it's the shoes wrote:
O Brittannia wrote:
Danny's athletes mostly seem to be running very well right now, excellent timing.
Just after Brooks announced they can wear Nike spikes. Not coincidental.
Can’t believe Nike created this Pandora’s box. It is ruining the sport, imo. But, you can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
RunnersEdge wrote:
Big Bomb , with all due respect Jakob's PB is 3.28.68 and Tim's is 3.28.41. How can you say it's a time they can't run. Tim just ran 3.30.41 to open his season last week. I am sure they took notice of Josh's performance though, how can you not. Wether they care or not is another story. They're still the ones to beat. Technology is ruining things, in my opinion.
Ya, Josh was a 3:32 guy two years ago. No way he should be able to make this jump to 3:31 after a full year of training due to Covid.
Coevett wrote:
Sarah Connor wrote:
Wow. One of my favorite runners.
How the hell does he make a 3:31 look so easy, while being built like a tank?
His brother is a 240lb rugby player who has been capped by Scotland.
I remember when I pointed out that in Kenya and Ethiopia, 99% of talented sportsmen and women get funnelled into distance running, whereas in the West it's more like 2%, I was mocked for implying that sports like rugby might harbour unrealized middle-distance talents.
There was a former rugby player who took up distance running several years ago who recently ran a 2:09 marathon.
might not be a great example, but there is truth behind it. in the states the most popular sport is football and running is an afterthought behind at least a handful of other more popular sports. US has a plethora of world class sprinters because its an easy transition from football where short bursts of speed and muscle are beneficial. In the UK everyone plays soccer which is largely an endurance sport and the short/slender frames carry over nicely to running. If more people in the US cared about running there would be better results. period.
Why would Brooks be pissed? Didn't Brooks pretty publicly give all their athletes the green light to wear whatever they wanted because Brooks's product timeline was a little behind? Or do I have the wrong company (can't find the press release at the moment)?
Probably trying to outrun the fallout of Brexit hahaha
RunnersEdge wrote:
Big Bomb , with all due respect Jakob's PB is 3.28.68 and Tim's is 3.28.41. How can you say it's a time they can't run. Tim just ran 3.30.41 to open his season last week. I am sure they took notice of Josh's performance though, how can you not. Wether they care or not is another story. They're still the ones to beat. Technology is ruining things, in my opinion.
The detractors on this thread are clown-level funny. I'm not going to guarantee Kerr as a sudden medal competitor, but this performance is massive and stunning. The fastest 1500m ever run on American soil? The second fastest 1500m of any kind, ever, on American soil (Kejelcha split 3:31.25i for his 3:47.01i WR in 2019)???
If any American had just run 3:31, solo, on US soil the boards would be shi++ing themselves about the second coming of Christ, sub-3:30 guaranteed and how he's a world beater. I know you'll jump in quickly about "the shoes" but this a crushing performance nonetheless.
Instead, we have a half-baked headline [much like Kessler's last week -- NO BLACK PAGE!???], detractions because:shoes and other circuitous blabber to denigrate Kerr's performance. Absolute joke, many of you are
And Steve: No, despite the top-1500m guys having faster PR's, most of them have not run a time like this solo, in the last few years. The only performances close to this in the last 2+ years are:
McSweyn's 3:31.51 to win by 2.5sec in Doha in August
McSweyn's 3:50.61y solo in Tasmania in December
Musab's 3:32.41 solo in Doha this Valentine's day
Kejelcha's 3:47.01i to win by 3sec in Boston in March 2019
The term "alpha" gets abused a lot, but Kerr is definitely the archetype of it. Tough as nails and DGAF about any BS. I still remember clearly how he smacked down King Ches off his throne in NCAA indoors. Just blasted the final laps like a Celtic warrior seeking vengeance.
Kerr said it wasn't solo. He said he had a great pacer.
Still Waiting wrote:
Kerr said it wasn't solo. He said he had a great pacer.
600m to finish solo and win by 4sec, required a lot of effort and clear evidence that he's in peak form. Again, if this is nothing special, why haven't these 3:28 guys dropped a few of these in their low-key races, where they could "easily" blast the last 800m and "jog" 3:31?
As he said post-race, the effort and proof of fitness is the difference between this and running 3:33.
Westlake Tavern Pizza wrote:
600m to finish solo and win by 4sec, required a lot of effort and clear evidence that he's in peak form. Again, if this is nothing special, why haven't these 3:28 guys dropped a few of these in their low-key races, where they could "easily" blast the last 800m and "jog" 3:31?
Uh what? Cheruiyot opened at 3:30.
Are we just going to ignore Cheruiyot's sub 3:30 wire to wire victory in a championship race in 2019?
Or Jakob´s solo running the first more than 1100m in DL Monaco 2020.
te5n1k wrote:
Coevett wrote:
His brother is a 240lb rugby player who has been capped by Scotland.
I remember when I pointed out that in Kenya and Ethiopia, 99% of talented sportsmen and women get funnelled into distance running, whereas in the West it's more like 2%, I was mocked for implying that sports like rugby might harbour unrealized middle-distance talents.
There was a former rugby player who took up distance running several years ago who recently ran a 2:09 marathon.
might not be a great example, but there is truth behind it. in the states the most popular sport is football and running is an afterthought behind at least a handful of other more popular sports. US has a plethora of world class sprinters because its an easy transition from football where short bursts of speed and muscle are beneficial. In the UK everyone plays soccer which is largely an endurance sport and the short/slender frames carry over nicely to running. If more people in the US cared about running there would be better results. period.
For the most part, that's not true. Football is played mostly in 40 metre bursts. Some make a virtue out of endurance, Kante for example, or prime David Beckham.
The general point about football in the UK is true. Any good basic athlete is taken by football and it's so all-consuming at school level that kids struggle to resist. It doesn't help that most schools won't have a running track. At my school, our (grass) track was painted onto the football field for the summer months. You have to make a real effort to do T&F in the UK, usually via a club
bluejay wrote:
Or Jakob´s solo running the first more than 1100m in DL Monaco 2020.
Lol making the decision to lag 10m-20m behind the rabbits and top competitor isn't the same as having to go out front alone.
Big bomb wrote:
Oh right. A guy runs a time that they cannot (which is all alone almost half the race on a high school track in a low key event) and they
You’re right, I don’t think Tim or Jakob could run that time because it is too slow.