I'm not sure about more recent iteration, but the original Carbon X and Carbon Rocket didn't have any of that supershoe spring due to the use of regular EVA foam. Carbon plate on road racing shoes doesn't seem to do that much unless accompanied by a large volume of very light foam material.
I noticed the sign above his head as he crosses the finish line, "Run on Clouds". kind of ironic as he is certainly running "under" the clouds.
CGN wrote:
knot so fast wrote:
Conditions were actually pretty good. Ideal teamps. Little wind. If anything, the rain kept things cool.
Conditions were very cold and wet (at best 9 C and pouring rain), over half the field dropped out.
9-10C for a marathon is perfect. Even rain isn't necessarily bad if not accompanied by wind. Cam wasn't wearing gloves, arm warmers, a toque, or anything.
And wouldn't lots of DNFs be expected in a race set up as a last chance qualifier, once athletes fall off pace? It wasn't exactly a strong field.
knot so fast wrote:
CGN wrote:
Conditions were very cold and wet (at best 9 C and pouring rain), over half the field dropped out.
9-10C for a marathon is perfect. Even rain isn't necessarily bad if not accompanied by wind. Cam wasn't wearing gloves, arm warmers, a toque, or anything.
And wouldn't lots of DNFs be expected in a race set up as a last chance qualifier, once athletes fall off pace? It wasn't exactly a strong field.
Agreed that 9-10C is fine, and perhaps even ideal, for a marathon. But that's definitely NOT the case if it's raining, as it clearly was in this race. Water in the air, covering your skin, puddling on the ground, and soaking your clothing and shoes has a big effect on thermoregulation, comfort, and even shoe efficiency. A light sprinkle and a bit of misting is okay, but no one running a long distance welcomes outright rain.
He looked very comfortable and smooth. Good to see him back.
Swedish Pride wrote:
He looked very comfortable and smooth. Good to see him back.
Hi had that old bounce right to the finish.
Looks like he was just trying to do as little damage as possible to himself while getting get under Preisners #2 time, so if someone else pops a good one he's still top 3. I have no doubt he could run faster on that day.
Conditions were good? Did you see how many finished and times? Meaning, weather was not "actually pretty good" and course with sharp 180 degrees in a section of the loop... it was clearly at least 2 mins slow. Cam is fit.
Ghost1 wrote:
https://www.strava.com/activities/5191585591He ran 61:08 half marathon time trial around a lake, 25 April, 2021. Unofficial Canadian best?
That's actually an island in the Columbia River.
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Ghost1 wrote:
https://www.strava.com/activities/5191585591He ran 61:08 half marathon time trial around a lake, 25 April, 2021. Unofficial Canadian best?
That's actually an island in the Columbia River.
sauvie island if you want to get specific. A lot of BTC athletes and people training in portland run there a lot because it's so flat and devoid of cars, as well as being really pretty. It's pretty awesome.
LRC please do an interview on podcast with Cam. The Utah days/NOP/ to the training that got him 2:09 in Toronto to the current form.
If he's running 61xx HM solo and then pulls away running slight negative split by himself in this marathon he's really found a solid plan. At the Marathon project in December I believed he dropped but he's rounded into form.
As far as supershoes comparison I believe he wore rocket Evo for Toronto which I felt wasn't anything special and really made you work with it's 1mm drop. The current carbon rocket is just more stack but Hoka I believe is just using an EVA.
One thing to note about VF is the distribution of special foam and the shape. When I'm running at a faster effort it's as if the softer foam at heel collapses and then in unison the banana shaped last pronates you forward to springboard off the carbon. I don't get this feeling as much with Endorphin for comparison.
Good to see him running so well. He looks great in the clip. More in the tank, clearly.
Agreed that 9-10C is fine, and perhaps even ideal, for a marathon. But that's definitely NOT the case if it's raining, as it clearly was in this race. Water in the air, covering your skin, puddling on the ground, and soaking your clothing and shoes has a big effect on thermoregulation, comfort, and even shoe efficiency. A light sprinkle and a bit of misting is okay, but no one running a long distance welcomes outright rain.[/quote]
Call me crazy, but 50F and raining is one of my favorite conditions to run in, especially for longer distances. I tend to generate a ton of heat when I exercise so I find that rain and cool temperatures prevents me from overheating, which is often my limiting factor when running longer distances.
Mate, I was there. The weather was awful. It was torrential rain at times. Flooded in parts of the couese, plus the course + 12 hairpin corners where you pretty much had to stop. This time is worth 90s+ on a dry course. The field was full of 62 half / 211 to 2:13 guys and only Cam hit the standard. IT WAS TOUGH
jazzytherunner wrote:
Call me crazy, but 50F and raining is one of my favorite conditions to run in, especially for longer distances. I tend to generate a ton of heat when I exercise so I find that rain and cool temperatures prevents me from overheating, which is often my limiting factor when running longer distances.
You're crazy. ;)
There is also a vid in English at the site.
CGN wrote:
knot so fast wrote:
Conditions were actually pretty good. Ideal teamps. Little wind. If anything, the rain kept things cool.
Conditions were very cold and wet (at best 9 C and pouring rain), over half the field dropped out.
Conditions were NOT good for the second half.
I don't think that "knot so fast" even watched the whole replay and obviously wasn't there. It was POURING for several miles.
You would think that a Salazar athlete would post a better time - since he is using PED's right?
Joking..
Still waiting for a Salazar athlete to test positive for something (besides medals).
wazzu1452 wrote:
You would think that a Salazar athlete would post a better time - since he is using PED's right?
Joking..
Still waiting for a Salazar athlete to test positive for something (besides medals).
Every NOPer is a doper.
Bill Rodgers rainy 1979 Boston victory: 2:09:27; just beyond 42 years ago. Think about it...
^ wrote:
Bill Rodgers rainy 1979 Boston victory: 2:09:27; just beyond 42 years ago. Think about it...
And no super shoes ;-)