Katelyn Tuohy continues to IMPROVE!

Was at the East Regional this week. Apparently half the team got sick a few days before regionals. Tuhoy was one of them. Guess it was a case of bad luck

Any details?

I can certainly believe it. Her times were way off. But that is the definition of a bad day. Bad luck.

Definitely possible the team got food poisoning or a bad cold or something. But I think people are focused a little too much on the Bad Day Theory, instead of the reality of all these athletes Peak and then have to rebuild

Just look at the Times across the board. Almost all the runners in both regionals especially the women distance runners , we're running way off their personal best. It wasn't only NC State it was most of the women distance runners, not all! But certainly the majority!

Anyway if you look at Katelyn Tuohy and most high school top runners, they have a couple of really fast races each season , but the majority of their races are building towards that

Katelyn ran four different really fast 1500 over 3 weeks and I think that was probably the best her legs had for the season. Anyway if you look at it it was a pretty long season from indoors to cross country finals to Outdoors,

Some college kids were vomiting on a Sunday morning? Too much fluids on Saturday night. This isn't BYU, it is NC State.

Anyone ever consider Florida weather at the end of May as a reason why distance runners might be a little slow last weekend, Jacksonville climate is a tad different this time of year than the research triangle

That is certainly possible also. But still the times were way, way off. It seemed like more than just the having peaked a week earlier or the fatigue of a first college season. Anyway, there is a dozen things that can cause tough days. That is part of the challenge, that you get one chance to qualify and if you have a bad day, those are the breaks.

Is her season over or is she expected to run in some summer meets? We have many college guys competing in the trials and even some high school guys. Mu looks like she could medal in the Olympics. Yet the best HS distance runner of all time didn't even qualify for nationals.

No idea.

Distance running is an entirely different ballgame than sprinting, especially on the women's side. Longevity is a big challenge. Seems like every major female high school runner the last few years has had to deal with injuries. Which is why what Tuohy did her true freshman year coming back from surgery was so impressive. Having a bad day for whatever reason at the regionals does not change that. Again has a freshman ever won the 1500 or 5000m? Would have to go back and look but it does not come to mind.

Guys seriously I'm surprised everyone misses the basic idea that distance Runners Peak and then have to rebuild! It wasn't the weather! I mean that might have slowed the times down a little but she ran her 4:33 Mile in almost a hundred degree heat and humidity. She loves the Heat. The weather didn't make her 10 seconds slower at 1500 M and a minute slower at 5K

People brought up her 8th grade time of 424, ninth grade 4:18 1500 meter! But in those season she averaged about a 4:35 1500 m! This season she averaged about 4:17 for almost 10 races! That's a big jump oh, and she's never had to deal with qualifying rounds

Anyway that was her Peak for the season and it's time to take some time off and then start base training over the summer. She will not be running anymore races until cross country next year! Time off, summer base training, time off, fall training, cross-country season, look in the peak for Nationals.

Probably get back into some good swimming as well. Probably be getting back to her old routine of swimming from The Creeks of Rockland County to Manhattan Island and back. Good workout

astro wrote:

That is certainly possible also. But still the times were way, way off. It seemed like more than just the having peaked a week earlier or the fatigue of a first college season. Anyway, there is a dozen things that can cause tough days. That is part of the challenge, that you get one chance to qualify and if you have a bad day, those are the breaks.

Hello,

As someone who actually raced at east regionals, it was hot. And I mean HOT. Races tended to be a bit more strategic because of the heat. Albeit, not all were but I think everyone knew what could happen if we went guns blazing, a very real possibility that the heat bites back. Now, some took the risk and it paid off and some held back a little for a big kick. Not only was strategy different but the women’s 1500 m was going on while it was 91 degrees outside and 50ish percent humidity. That feels sweltering for people who didn’t come from that climate. Just pointing it out, heat most definitely was a factor on most people performances. Doesn’t mean you can’t run fast in the heat or anything, but you can’t discount it as a factor.

avnlkkn wrote:

Agreed. Touhy ran 4:12, 4:13 the day after, then 15:50 2 hours later looking a lot smoother than she did at UVA running 15:47. She's improved every single outing this year (including indoor and XC), she's got momentum going into regionals and potentially nationals.

It was great to see her smile crossing the finish line in the 5k hugging her teammates. She's having fun. Possibly the most critical thing for a HS phenom to do their freshman year of college. She will be on a competitive and supportive team the next 4 years. We should care more about if she's enjoying the process than if she ever wins an NCAA title cause she was a fantastic HS runner. They didn't hand her a NCAA title at NXN, it doesn't work like that.

Could be. Looking at the weather index the weather was not that far off across the region up to DC in the two weeks prior. But again, who knows.

I'm with you here, I watched the race and thought she was fine. She didn't try to chase down AT and just settled into second.

I'm pretty sure she and her coaches had set out the split times to shoot for...just a bad race day.

She should not have any problem qualifying...but she obviously didn't have the legs that day. It happens. No excuses need to be made. Hopefully this helps make her stronger going forward.

Beyond absurd. It’s the race schedule, It’s race tactics, it’s the injury a year ago, it’s the weather, it’s food poisoning! You fanboys an fangirls do more damage than any of the so called trolls on this board. If you haven’t figured it out they aren’t trolling her they’re trolling you.

She doesn’t need your excuses. The reality is she wasn’t good enough to advance. The reason doesn’t matter. Your constant speculations only serve to discount the performances of every lady that did advance, including GASP other freshman.

Give it a rest, her accomplishments aren’t yours.

Someone seems bitter.

If someone runs a few seconds off their time, you can chalk that up to a dozen routine factors. If someone runs 10 seconds slower than they have run repeatedly all year, it is at least curious. But it is what it is.

Not bitter at all. You just strike me as someone who never accomplish anything and wants to live vicariously through someone that has.

She, as someone that is accomplished, understands that she can have a bad day within having to search for an excuse.

You on the other have to search and search for a reason because you, unlike her, need some sort of validation.

I think they call this projection. :)

Anyway I made no excuses. But the fact remains she ran 4:23 after running 4:16, 4:14, and then 4:12 and 4:13 just two weeks back. Like I said, there are a dozen possible reasons for a bad day. But that level of drop off was an outlier.

Hey I’m not the one that tracks every race an knows every time she’s ever run.

I saw the race that wasn’t a drop off. It’s called getting dropped. She just didn’t have it, let it go. I’m sure it bothers her less than it bothers you.